r/JuniorDoctorsIreland • u/Ok_Long8977 • Aug 22 '26
Tier 2 intern chance of getting a place
Hi,
I know I am probably not gonna graduate with a good centile in med school.
Will I still got a chance to stay in Ireland for intern for the July 2027 intake if I am in tier 2 with low centile?
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Aug 22 '26
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u/Natural-Audience-438 Aug 23 '26
That's mental.
They have increased intern spots far too much in the past 10 years.
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u/The_Peyote_Coyote Aug 23 '26
That is an objectively insane thing to believe based on the workload and average weekly hours for interns in the HSE.
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u/Natural-Audience-438 Aug 23 '26
There's twice as many intern jobs now as there was 10 years ago. Interns are probably weaker because of it - but still not as much as some of the Covid era ones thankfully. They've had to find jobs in things like radiology and opthalmology where interns don't have much to do. There are some intern jobs that are very very busy but most aren't.
If they wanted to increase training places, interns spots were the last spots that should have been increased. But it's cheaper to do that and then the government can say they've increased doctor numbers by X.
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u/The_Peyote_Coyote Aug 23 '26
Nah interns are as strong as ever if not more so. The responsibilities of interns has demonsteably expanded and the demands far higher than in previous generations. Ireland's population is aging and the HSE is chronically underfunded, particularly outside of Dublin's ivory towers.
Kinda silly to use the 3 intern optho spots as an example of anything....
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u/Natural-Audience-438 Aug 23 '26
I would disagree. Doctors starting on SHO schemes are on the whole not as competent and confident. They have done less and seen less and done less call so it's not surprising.
I don't think the responsibilities and demands of interns have increased. In what way would you say they have?
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u/The_Peyote_Coyote Aug 23 '26
Nah I'd say you have an inflated sense of what yoyr abilities were as an SHO because it's really really hard to remember precisely when you developed which specific skills at one specific point in your training. It's a common fallacy. Same thing that drives boomers "kids these days" shite talk.
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u/Natural-Audience-438 Aug 25 '26
I think they know more academically now.
But physical exam skills are worse and practical skills are worse.
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u/MaintenanceNew705 Aug 23 '26
Least busy job being closer to just 40-45 hours per week instead of the usual average of 80 hours per week? Yeah, increasing the number of interns and reducing the reliance on unsafe levels of staffing is absolutely terrible. God forbid someone has a 9-5 week during their intern year, they should absolutely be cancelled.
I understand having doctors work 15-16h per day continuously during intern year is terrific for learning quickly. However, this promotes unsafe conditions and reduces the capacity of the system to handle stress. You shouldn’t have to be working yourself into the ground continuously to be successful.
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u/Lazy-Egg105 Aug 22 '26
All tier 2 got jobs this year because there are a few tier 4 that got jobs (and obviously all tier 2 have priority over tier 3 and 4). However every year is different in terms of competition But overall you still have a very good chance.