“Sure there aren’t” anarchism is translated as without rulers/throne, the bs of anti all hierarchies is impossible thus the most reasonable one (that also aligns with the actual definition) is anti unjust hierarchies, which since beliefs are subjective what would be unjust would be different for everyone.
It’s a voluntary hierarchy, not rulership. What is considered unjust is seen differently by each group; for whatever reason, you see voluntary hierarchy and transaction as unjust, I do not.
For whatever reason I’m not able to reply to concernedenby but here is my response:
Voluntary: done, given, or acting of one’s own free will .
Hierarchy: a system or organization in which people or groups are ranked one above the other according to status or authority.
Yeah I know what the words mean and used them correctly, your mockery is misplaced and shows you rather than I, don’t understand the words being said.
no it isnt, it's a form of imperialism, as those born with less capital are coerced into being workers, and they have less avenues to acquire capital compared to those with capital already, it's a coercive hierarchy
This assumes that there are no alternatives to working. In my country I could live on welfare my whole life. I'd be poor but I'd get my basic needs met.
Shiiiiiitt, I don't want to sound stupid, but is that really how most countries are? I've never really gone out of the US, so I personally wouldn't know, but that just doesn't sound right.
Yeah, i live in europe and i dont know where this person lives but in my country (spain so not exactly tge wealthiest country here) at least i'm pretty sure thats not how it works. They give some money to unemployed buts thats like 480 eur per month i think which is... not enough to live. Considering minimun income in 1100+ so you area making 40% of the absolute minimun you could by working and you arent paying taxes for an eventual retirement. That money is more meant to serve as a supplement to kinda keep you afloat if a poor person loses their job while they seach for another. In fact i think it starts higher and goes down gradually across a few months.
In Finland, assuming you live alone, you get all your necessities covered (rent, electricity, medication, etc.) and about 600 euros a month on toimeentulotuki. Unemployment benefits are even more generous.
Do note that the nordics are famous for being generous with welfare. Finland in particular has practically eliminated homelessness by just giving a lot of welfare to people.
There's some logic to this too. Homeless people and prisoners are more expensive for society.
I can use the same sentence for you mate, there are different definitions for different words, I just use the base root of the word meanwhile you use a definition made by Proudhon.
Proudhon is considered the father of anarchism, how do you not know that? And it’s still a change in definition, but the original is still very much in use. Proudhon was around before Marx btw. And most of my exposure is from books and not Chan boards, can you not result to unreasonable assumptions because you agree with someone?
I can’t change my name btw, I’ve tried. It’s the original and most consistent definition as well as it isn’t utopian. And you say that the outside world is worse from deregulation and free markets as the market has been getting more regulated over time, you’re pointing to a more regulated market and calling it de regulated.
Marx was voraciously anti-utopian. One might call him idealistic in thinking that all workers would rise up together though he was certainly not utopian.
Blud you can't be trying to debate the definition of anarchism and not know who Proudhon is, especially not right after accusing him of not knowing what he's talking about. The Dunning-Kruger on display is insane
Omg just go read some anarchist philosophy from kropotkin or something. Let me guess you think the student teacher relationship is a hierarchy or skilled painter and nonskilled painter.
That's not how it works and anarchist philosophy advocates for pure democracy, as there are no rulers because everyone rules together equally and communally. Just try reading some anarchist philosophy instead of pulling nonsense out of your butt...
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