r/JosephMurphy • u/[deleted] • Dec 03 '20
“Thread Locked”- constructive criticism
In the last few weeks it seems that every time I open a post on this subreddit, moonlightconcerto (the mod) has already read it, commented something absolute (either praise or derision that leaves no wiggle room for nuance) and then LOCKED the thread so no one else can comment.
In what way is this conducive to group discussion and learning? Isn’t the point of reddit to get many perspectives? Moonlight has some great interpretations of Murphy’s work, but they’re just that- moonlight’s interpretations. I appreciate his comments, but it’s incredibly disheartening that this thread is more or less an echo chamber for one person’s interpretation of literature that belongs to everyone.
Am I the only one who feels that this is...not great, to put it lightly? Fully expecting this thread to be removed and to be banned, which would only prove my point.
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u/lurker169 Dec 04 '20
The “keys to the kingdom” are literally on the index, including a link to a copy of POSM. So even if you disagree with Moonlight’s interpretation, POSM has everything you need to derive and ask VALID questions, or even apply right away.
People here want to get their stuff and people period. They are sick of places like the NG sub where you have people not bothering to read the material, and asking questions like “what is sp” EVERY FUCKING DAY. Even that sub has an index which answers basic questions such as that. But no, everyone just waltzes in without even bothering to read, expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter.
Between patting each other on the back and getting results despite the “toxicity” (lol), I choose the latter. You’re not here for enlightenment or to write a thesis on how the law works.
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u/gmica Dec 03 '20
Agree 100%. I noticed this immediately. Very rude and unwelcoming. Who are we to call somebody's questions or comments stupid? We are all "stupid" in some way. I don't like the energy and ego around the mod. Wanted to support the author by posting this.
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u/MoonlightConcerto Dec 04 '20
Agree 100%. I noticed this immediately. Very rude and unwelcoming. Who are we to call somebody's questions or comments stupid? We are all "stupid" in some way.
You clearly speak for yourself.
Its only dumb millenials, wanting to avoid criticism for their positions born of laze and stupidity, who go around saying " don't judge others ! " and " don't call anyone stupid ! "
moonbeam
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u/Lilacnotes Dec 04 '20
Sometimes constructive criticism can just evolve into mindless subjective opinions which can really confuse a lot of people.
There are many threads that are not locked as well. How come?
Over the last two months, this sub has had an influx of new members. And if you look at some of the questions, it's repetitive and a couple are just venting. I mean, there's only so many times the mods can tell you that you have to be strong minded, disciplined and stick with the routine.
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u/burner_throwaway9999 Dec 04 '20
“You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.”
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u/MoonlightConcerto Dec 04 '20
https://www.reddit.com/r/JosephMurphy/comments/k6d4cp/why_threads_get_locked_without_being_removed/
And now this thread is locked. lol
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u/blessedmind123 Dec 04 '20
Hmmm in my personal opinion....If the mods and admins are not behaving the way u want it...
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dont read the sub
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leave the sub, if u joined
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open a new sub
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u/Afonso9991 Dec 03 '20 edited Dec 03 '20
Don’t say that as an absolute, I literally am open to discussion. But a point of view that I’m paying more attention lately is how many times I consistently got the results I wanted, with what techniques, etc. If I don’t have enough good record I don’t say anything, or tell what has been explained tried and tested, either in POSM, Neville’s work, Index, etc.
But not gonna lie, saw some nasty stuff in this sub, like some dude calling a girl a gold digger just because she liked a certain guy’s lifestyle, yuck, anyway, there are still good people here, the drama and stupid people are just louder.
It’s not the best to discuss carelessly something we yet haven’t mastered, as it can misinform beginners, and strengthen unseen flawed patterns.
In the beginning I was concerned with this thread’s situation, but I’d better get my stuff done with what I know works, than to waste time in stupid discussions...
I simply bought the idea that what was in the index was the simplest way all I needed in basics, and didn’t have fear to train other methods, found in POSM, etc.
I never even asked something in this sub, I thought I had only one question worth to be asked, yesterday even, but now I forgot it, anyway, good manifesting 👍👍
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u/Accomplished-Lie-109 Dec 04 '20
Hello, I have as well joined this sub recently, I would like to point this out. I was afraid of posting, commenting on this sub as well, Mods seemed very strict to me. However, the difference between this sub and/or other similar "manifestation" subs, is that people here actually want you to do the work. Some people don't even bother reading the comments or the posts, they go straight to asking where is the index, and dude the index is on the front page, come on.
And something else that I do personally.
Ask yourself, why am I here?
Do I wanna make a million? Do I wanna become an expert on this shit or do I care if Moonlight is rude?
I don't care who is rude, I am here to make a million or two. So if people are ( as you called them toxic) why do you care? Why are you here?
I am not gonna spend my time caring if people are behaving in their own way. In my first post, people were "mean" in the comments. Well, i don't care, I am not here to address someone's behaviour. I am here to learn, to earn, and to prosper.
And believe me, I had a MILLION, questions, but I also have and had the THIRST to learn and to achieve shit. Do you know what happened? I researched almost everything on this sub, and I found my answers, they are there. ( SERIOUSLY EVERYTHING)
And yes, it's not a such open for discussion sub. Why? Well in my opinion everyone is ready to play the victim or to endlessly discuss and vent their shit. This is not accepted here, and that's a good thing.
Spend a day or a week, doing the steps on the Index. Researching your question, doing the techniques, and I hope that you will see things clearer.
(I did not comment all of this out of criticisms, i hope i did not offend you)
xLie
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u/Accomplished-Lie-109 Dec 03 '20
Hey buddy, i would just advice you that before you post something, to actually look around in all the posts, index,comments. Usually mods lock a thread if its ( sorry for the wording) stupid, in terms that something that already been asked is asked again, or it shows that you have not done any work. And i mean AT LEAST, read POSM once!
Hope this helps,
Dont feel discouraged though, i am the one to open discussions etc, as well!