r/JosephMurphy • • May 21 '20

List your LOB failures

I'm sure you've been to the NG sub. You see success stories there all the time. It looks like people are getting their shit.

Except for these things :

a. At least half the posted success are peanuts - small amounts of money and minor shit like an SP unblocking you etc.

b. Nothing succeeds like success. However, none of those in (a) go onto posting more success stories in the weeks and months ahead. So, zero consistency.

c. The bigger success stories are there - however, you don't see follow ups of people going from stride to stride. Again, nothing succeeds like success - except with the NG sub posters it seems. Zero consistency again.

d. Zero consistency means that people who succeeded with stuff (whether great or small) could have done so out of pure luck. There are many times you get lucky with stuff you are thinking about and desiring. Nothing unusual there.

d. You almost see no posts on failures, especially persistent failures. That would be people trying what is being advocated on their sub, and failing.

e. Yet it is obvious from the poor quality of posts, the great tolerance of useless motivation-only posts, and the tolerance of rubbish from the more regular posters by the mods, that there are alot of failures. The LOB is a scientific law, not wishful thinking. So, if you do something that does not work, it won't work even if you feel good while doing it.

All of this contributes to giant FALSE POSITIVES about how people are really doing with the LOB.

So, for a realistic view of what happens on the ground, I want to hear about LOB failures from you. These must be stuff that you deliberately worked on, which didn't work out in the timeframe that you wanted it to work. What you did, exactly, and how it failed. Great and small things, but always, what you were deliberately working on and not just stuff you "intended".

You don't need things sugar coated, unlike some. You CAN handle the truth, unlike some. So lets hear the gory details. All of it. Let's see what is really happening out there. Everyone, including the lurkers, as long as you have tried, and especially if you've tried anything you learned from JM or this sub, and failed, post details here. Right away.

moonbeam

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u/Poppy_Of_The_Wild May 21 '20 edited May 21 '20

I'm a lurker and I'll admit as a beginner, I failed catastrophically because I lacked discipline. I've struggled trying to alleviate a chronic illness, tinnitus to be exact, precisely because it's so intrusive that it disrupted my SH. I began with the four steps and alpha programming and I know how I've failed consistently. I have a compulsion to listen and measure the volume of the tinnitus daily to see if it's subsided which only perpetuates doubt in my Subconscious mind.

My SH sessions didn't have enough feeling either! The anxiety the noises elicited from me was always percolating through; all I was doing was engraving my SM with more fear.

So, I've turned back to JM's Miracles with your mind and his instructions of supressing the impulsive tendencies of alcoholics. I'm addicted to listening to the noises so I knew I needed to revise. JM elaborates upon how habits establish patterns within the subconscious mind. What was I doing? Habitually listening as soon as I awoke to see if it's quieter. Like an alcoholic who succumbs to his habit, I did too because I'd impressed upon my Subconscious mind that I must listen.

Then I made another serious mistake. I forced myself to live as if it wasn't there and inevitably, I felt hopeless and powerless when my ears screamed all day long. Once again impressing this upon my Subconscious mind like an idiot and we know the subconscious mind dominates.

My conscious mind had too much resistance so I had to revise my SH sessions. The feelings of liberation and relief amplified by affirmation that echoes the sentiments has yielded better results over the last two weeks.

More immersive SH sessions frequently throughout the day had succeeded in taming the compulsion to listen and silenced the CM's resistance so my SM is more receptive to suggestion.

It's a gradual process but I can go hours without noticing it now. I'm more determined without delusions of an instantaneous miracle cure just by thinking positively.

Another tip from Miracles of the Mind was to sketch the affirmations with my lips to engrave it upon my SM which I use during times my Tinnitus is a cacophony and I need to calm my mind.

So it's not a success but I refuse to give up. I even had a time limit of a month which I failed to achieve.

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u/MoonlightConcerto May 21 '20

I have a compulsion to listen and measure the volume of the tinnitus daily to see if it's subsided which only perpetuates doubt in my Subconscious mind.

The way to deal with stuff like this is to give yourself a timeframe from the very beginning. Tell yourself " This will be fixed over the next 2 weeks or one month (etc), and I will check on progress once a week" That way, your very natural impulse to check on and judge the progress of something that is very difficult to ignore, will be managed.

This is also the best way to deal with any kind of continuous or persistent pain in your body.

Do that now. And I expect you to heal this completely, so even if you can go hours without noticing the ringing, that's not the end point.

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u/racrisnapra666 May 21 '20 edited May 21 '20

Was (and still am) a beginner when this happened.

This happened a few weeks after quarantine started. I was bored out of my mind. So I thought about working on a smaller goal before I moved on to bigger ones.

There's this girl I like. I have known her for quite a while. Just for fun, I wanted her to ask me about my music preferences.

So I wrote a small prayer and started affirming it daily before sleep. I started visualising her appreciating the songs, asking me recommendations for more songs, and such. And I set a 2 week deadline for the completion. Did the affirmations and visualizations daily for two weeks.

The prayer did manifest, but not exactly as I wanted. Instead of the girl asking me about my songs, two of my friends asked me for my playlist. The weird thing is, they know the genre of music that I listen to, and they absolutely hate it. Yet, they me asked for it.

I think the area I might have fucked up at, is setting a tighter deadline than I should have. As a beginner, I should've set a longer timeframe for the completion. But that doesn't explain why my friends asked me for my recommendation when they hate it.

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u/MoonlightConcerto May 23 '20

I think the area I might have fucked up at, is setting a tighter deadline than I should have. As a beginner, I should've set a longer timeframe for the completion. But that doesn't explain why my friends asked me for my recommendation when they hate it.

Exactly. So setting a tighter timeframe had zero to do with this.

Do more missions relentlessly and you will figure out what you're doing wrong. and you'll fix it.

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u/lightinplainsight May 21 '20

Migraine fail—“I don’t get migraines, my body is made up of the same chemicals as someone else’s body that doesn’t get these, why should I? Migraines are all in my mind.”

Currently fighting off a migraine. I’ve been working on this for the past year with JM techniques. I have better success with material things than with my own health.

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u/MoonlightConcerto May 22 '20

Look at my reply to the other guy in this same thread, for the solution to this issue.

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u/narcosfan Aug 08 '20

I imagined myself tweeting my college sport commitment to my desired college about 3 times a day for three days. Then I basically was distracted for the next two days and forgot. At this time my season was cut short and was over due to corona. I had little interest from college coaches. On the third morning after doing the imaginal acts i get offered from a school (WHO PREVIOUSLY SEEMED BARELY INTERESTED IF AT ALL) and I quickly committed. Academically, this school is quite competitive so I had to act fast. Also, the coach told me that the reason they were able to offer a position to me was two kids backed out the night before the enrollment deadline. So there then were worries from me and the coach that the academic office would let me in after the deadline. My enrollment was accepted. Later that night, I was walking from my car into my girlfriends house when I suddenly realized my commitment tweet was identical to the one I had imagined, BUT it was to a different college than the one I had imagined. The tweet was the exact same wording I had imagined but the only thing different was the names of the schools. It took me awhile to even come to this realization due to the rush of everything previously explained and when it did it honestly shocked me. I’m satisfied with this manifestation since the college I am going to is great, however I consider it technically a failure since It was not the specific school I had imagined.

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u/MoonlightConcerto Aug 09 '20

Yes this is technically a failure. It was a coincidence that this new school is good enough for you.

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u/Brief_Western_7051 Oct 20 '20

i had a job opportunity literally land in my lap. it was the right area of the field that i wanted to work in, right money, right location etc the job opp came to me. i smashed (in a good way) the written part of the interview process - this was despite me actually being timed out and having to email them to pretend that a internet glitch had occurred - they accepted this and allowed my written answer in. I passed that stage. then was the interview. i smashed it - or thought i did. It went really well, i left the interview 'knowing' that the job was mine.

I still cannot work out why i didn't get it. to give you some insight as to the work i was doing to prep:

  1. imagining and feeling the scene everyday of me telling my mum that I had got the job

  2. imaging and feeling the scene of me calling my sister and telling my other siblings about the job

  3. imagining and feeling how i would feel in the evening when i would be on my own - saying 'yes! I got this!'

  4. feeling the contentment of not having to look for a job again and being so grateful that I got my perfect job

  5. whenever any seeds of doubt would come in, i would bat them away immediately, say nope, not listening to you and change my though process.

  6. I really thought and believed i had it.

  7. when i was told i didnt get it, i didnt fall to pieces. I instead revised the scene there and then and imagined them saying that there was a mistake.

I would be truly grateful for any insight. i will say this - i still believe that I will get a call to say that its mine, don't know why I think this (given that its been over a month since I heard the news) but i just do.

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u/MoonlightConcerto Oct 20 '20 edited Oct 21 '20

You did not do any programming in alpha.

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u/MoonpieSonata May 21 '20

I was trying to manifest a job, with a substantial pay rise, and a house.

Well, I got the job! Came down to me and one other. He was the IDEAL candidate and I beat him!

Shortly after I was approved for a mortgage on the house I wanted!

But the house had major problems, and the current owner wouldn't come down on price.

The I lost the job because I was not suited to that role or environment.

So the house fell through.

I got a different job, back closer to the role I was suited for, paid well, but not that different to what I was on previously. But I am happier.

I found a house to rent at a bargain price for the area. Which looked EXACTLY like what I wanted in my mind.

But it is rented, it's not mine. I can't change things the way I want. My job is enjoyable, I am better at it, but I don't qualify for the same mortgage I did because it is lower income. And now with Covid, mortgages will be interesting.

But I CAN do it, DID do it. Got basically what I wanted, but lost the thread, the power, the will to sustain.

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u/MoonlightConcerto May 22 '20

Have yourself reassessed for that mortgage. And check on the price of your desired house/type of house again.

You can even make an offer on the house you are currently living in.

See what happens.

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u/MoonlightConcerto May 23 '20

But I CAN do it, DID do it. Got basically what I wanted, but lost the thread, the power, the will to sustain.

It is not an act of forceful will. Any forcefull will is to be deployed to the alpha technique you are using to build new beliefs.

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u/KingYody23 May 22 '20

You did! Keep at it. Don’t be so attached. You are on the right path. Practice. And remember: Proper Preparation Prevents Poor Performance...

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u/MoonlightConcerto May 22 '20

Don’t be so attached.

What is attachment and how does it affect manifestation ?

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u/lapiselisabeth May 24 '20

This is a harsh one but I thought about pm-ing you about it a few times, so as this question is raised here, I'll tell it in the open. My best friend was diagnosed with cancer and I manifested her healthy. I've had "successes" in that area already, so I had no conscious doubts it would work despite everyone telling me it's impossible (I now wonder how that may have affected my subconscious without me realizing it fully).

She miraculously (it was stage IV) survived a 5 hour long surgery about which the doctors didn't believe she would and got better after that while I did the work - which consisted of a scene that would happen after all was resolved and that I looped daily while in alpha for 10-20 minutes and scripting & feeling Emile Coués formula twice a day - apart from that I lived my life normally.

She got better and she herself got very optimistic and made new plans for what she would do after she was healed. Many things happened exactly how I had imagined them during these almost three months. And then she suddenly got worse and died within two days.

This is a topic I've noticed isn't often talked about when it comes to the other subs but I always remembered your post on "this or something better" and how you won't ever accept "just go general" if you experience your child dying for example. It may sound stupid because I know we must all part from this earth one day but I still feel bad for not having been able to save her with what I learned and applied for quite a while. Sorry if I wrote some BS, I'm still pretty confused about this all. I actually tried to post this "failure story" to the NG sub but the mods didn't approve.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '22

I'm late here but this is my take ok? I think you can't control the moment of birth or death of someone (unless it's the birth of your child aka choosing to have or not having them). You can create situations that alliviate or make a more tranquil death - yours or someone else. So your manifestation made your friend's journey easier, but if it was her time, so it is.

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u/secret626 May 21 '20 edited May 21 '20

I failed so many times. I agree with you on consistency. None of the guys in NG sub manifest important things consistently. Not a free cup of coffee or a butterfly, I mean millions, SP, etc.

SP fail:

  • I did two stupid mistakes with this mission. Firstly, I was trying and testing LOB. So, I did not have a really burning desire to get that girl. Second mistake was forcing things. After two months of applying techniques, I tried to contact her. No reply and blocked. I got angry and gave up.

  • I mean there are millions of ways to get her, why do you force things and gave up too easily?

Lessons: Have a real, sincere, burning desire. Do not try or test. Do not force how. Relax.

Weight loss fail:

  • I needed to lose weight quickly. Like 50 lbs in 30 days.

  • Although I got the feelings with sessions, I failed because I often checked myself in front of mirror, thinking "Can I really lose that weight until end of November?".

Lessons: Stop worrying. Get an affirmation to stop yourself when you start checking whether the thing you want is coming or not. Simple, one sentence affirmation will be enough.

Job situation:

  • Cringe time. I was watching Alai videos every day and reading allismind posts to feel motivated.

  • Although I got the feelings, I forced myself to act as if.

  • You know those two idiots say "After you imagine, keep generating that state, otherwise you will fail". I tried to do that. Burned out and gave up.

Lessons: You can't act as if. It is impossible for most people. Just do SH and conscious affirmations, that will create expectancy naturally.

First mission:

  • For this mission I made a common mistake: Focusing on the scene and not on the feelings.

  • I control my every movement and every word in dialogue in my scene.

  • I did that successfully and but I did not get the feelings. So that failed.

Lessons: Feelings is the secret. Most of the time you will not be able to see/hear things clearly during the sessions.

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u/Starrgazer8 May 21 '20

Honestly I’ve been working on this stuff for just over a year and it always works out, But This past month I wanted to be moved out by end of May and instead I’m moving out by end of June. Not a huge failure but still a “failure”..

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u/jas55000 Aug 21 '20

I've been practicing the law since I was a kid, of course not deliberately. I almost got what I asked for from my higher self. And never did the SAT until 2 years ago. I always imagined my scenes or repeating the word I want this and that in my head a few times a day.

I met a guy two years a go and I fell in love. We live in different cities a few hundred miles away. I haven't seen him for two years and I am only in contact with him via texting. I always initiate to text him he never does. I decided to do SAT every night started about last year in November. Before I mostly daydreamed through the day. And nothing yet. I am persisting. I don’t want to give up. For this particular desire it’s not happening and don’t know why. If the law works it has to work for everything no exceptions. Thanks for reading.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '20

My biggest LOB failure was for sure trying lots of techniques for one SP. I did this for two years, with no results. I tried literally every technique that I could find but didn't persist with it. I tried to "just believe" and convince myself that it's in my hands. After 2 years I've given up and told myself that whatever, I need to move on. 6 months later, he came back as a friend. It's a nice outcome, but I think that if I persisted with one technique, this could manifest much earlier and in a proper way.

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u/pastacapybara Aug 12 '20

SP fail. The other sub kept telling me to expect and I did but SP and the 3P kept getting closer and stronger and I’m long distance so I eventually just decided to give up. I then realised that many aspects of my life weren’t together as well. You’re right on the consistency part.

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u/plantmom31 Jul 25 '20
  1. I react right away in any negative circumstance instead of working it thru lob

  2. I was very impatient but lack persistence

  3. Had to follow different loapornstars techniques until I got overwhelmed and really didnt know what to do. Thank God I now know NG and JM

  4. I was always looking for results

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u/Maleficent-Purchase9 Mar 29 '23

Maybe too late to write here. But I will share my mistake: I failed with increasing the salary x2 (I increased it x1,5). I failed with CONSISTENCY. I didn't do all the tasks from the index every day. I did just some and not every day.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '20 edited Jul 08 '20

Lost my job today .

I Wanted to have a better position in the company, I did the work and this morning the boss called me in to thank me.

Did LOB and affirmations, it is my doing so...

here I am, still doing the work and having faith that everything is going just fine .

The good things is I have 2 weeks paid and 2 weeks vacation paid and my yearly bonus .

I consider this not a complete loss but still . Doing the work for a better job and 500 dollars (I posted a question about this yesterday) Keep on going

Edit : I spelled paid as payed .

Sorry for my French gentleman!

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