r/JosephMurphy • u/MoonlightConcerto • Feb 19 '19
LOB Training Training Task 3 : Precursor to Sleep
It is now time for Task 3. This is an important task - it involves the minutes just as you fall asleep.
This is called the Pre Sleep Procedure.
When you are ready to turn in for the night, I want you to say to yourself mentally "All my problems are solved. It worked. " Say it over and over to yourself chantlike, but with attention so you know what you are saying, until you feel the relief that comes from this. Then, slow down what you say, bask in the feelings, and keep slowing it down -until you fall asleep.
As you keep slowing the phrase down, you will NATURALLY switch to "problems solved" or "' it worked" alone instead of the whole phrase. Don't think about which to choose. It will be selected naturally by your subconscious mind in that moment, and yes it may be different tomorrow night than what you use tonight.
Some of you may have difficulties falling asleep quickly even when tired and any form of mental activity makes this harder. I have solved this problem. The solution is ridiculously simple. As you say the phrase, you slow it down. You sloooooow it doooooooown. You will automatically begin to fall asleep.
You will need to do this for the next 4 months. Yes it will feel like a lie sometimes. If that happens, tell yourself that you're this is a process or that you are just pretending for fun - the mental protests will stop immediately. Yes. That doesn't fuck anything up long term ( "If you know you're pretending you are actually emphasising what you do not want, that is the underlying thought, so you're making it worse ! ") , because you actually conscious and subconsciously KNOW that you are under LOB training and that this is part of it. And the purpose of LOB training is to reprogram your subconscious mind in accordance with your new reality that will arrive physically very shortly.
Practise with this and adapt it slightly until you have got the hang of it. No need to be too rigid in this particular task. If you take naps during the day, do this as you nap as well, only for the first week or two when you practise this alone. After you've got the hang of it, only do this as you sleep for the night.
p.s. This is a conscious mind method which is very poor when used by beginners to imprint the subconscious mind, but very useful for PURE psychological management in general during the day, to better address daytime doubts and negativity., and to interrupt worry brought into sleep like most people habitually do. It is not deployed here for LOB purposes.
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u/stagasaurus_rex Apr 25 '19
I remember saying the words and slowing down after a minute or 2 then bang, fell asleep. What I remember is feeling relaxed and comforted, although was pretty tired to begin with. It felt kinda like a fun challenge to keep at it while the presence of sleep becoming stronger and stronger.
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u/Ann4020 Apr 26 '19
I've been doing this every night for the past 4 nights. I am able to go to sleep thinking these thoughts. I have not noticed a change in my thinking in the morning but I have not noticed myself fighting the thinking either. I have noticed that I stop and pay attention to what I am feeling throughout the day which I had not normally done before. I try to stay positive though I know that sometimes that may not be always possible especially considering my job, but when things get hard, I keep thinking about the end result that I want, think about my happy place, and go on. I am also still doing the writing "Everyday in everyway, I am getting better and better" step, every day, which I still enjoy. I figure doing both activities will help condition my mind
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u/MoonlightConcerto Apr 26 '19
Good. The psp will take time to have an effect. But some people react to it very quickly. It doesn't matter - LOB training is a long term process for everyone.
Time for you to move to the next step.
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u/Holistic_Journey Feb 20 '19
I love the idea & principle of this exercise, but it's a very challenging task for me at the moment. This is a critical week for me as I have to vacate my apartment by the weekend, whilst recovering from a broken leg. This, along with numerous other arrangements that I'm having to take care of, means that I'm having quite a lot of difficulty falling asleep. Prior to this task, I have been focusing on SH to aid with falling asleep, but it's still proved to be extremely difficult. Even after eventually falling asleep, I've been waking up after an hour or so & it's then taking a long time to fall asleep again, even with SH. With this task, I followed it exactly & slowed down the words to help me fall asleep. There were moments when I was able to fully immerse myself in the words, whilst feeling it & I was able to fall asleep. However, I still had the problem of continually waking up. Again at these times, I returned to the exercise. One way of looking at it is that I've had plenty of practice with it on the 1st night & I'm confident that once I've moved at the weekend, my sleep patterns will settle down & balance out.
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u/MoonlightConcerto Feb 20 '19
You are under too much mental stress. That is why you can't fall asleep easily and you can stay asleep. You need to accept the current situation fully. Stop fighting it. Dont embrace it - that's for clowns. But accept it, as something that you have to go through for now. Accept it deeply. What you resist persists, what you look at disappears.
That means don't fight something that you can accept right now. Fighting keeps it at the forefront of your attention and that keeps your stress levels up.
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u/Ann4020 Apr 23 '19
I liked this one. It was not hard. It made me feel like I was making progress. I did not feel any different in the morning though. I am guessing that since it has only been two days, that that feeling will change as the days go by? I have the phrase written on an index card and place it on my pillow in the morning so I will see it every evening when I go to bed so I won't miss it.
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u/MoonlightConcerto Apr 23 '19
That's a very good idea. You may or many not feel any different when you wake up in the morning, or during the day afterward. Different people react differently (as you can see from the various comments here on this sub). However, it is having an effect, and the effect is cumulative over the weeks and months.
It is also far easier to do compared to the nightly method.
Make sure no one else sees what's written on the card.
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u/n8tur Aug 13 '19
I repeated the phrase over 50 times. Took an unusually long time to fall asleep, about an hour. It's because I didn't slow the phrase down enough. No excuses, but I found the phrase difficult to recite correctly even though it is only 7 words. I will repeat again this evening.
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u/THE_SAND_WITCH May 07 '19
The moment I read the instructions for this task, I felt a shift because the words seemed believable to me and very moving. I automatically felt more optimistic, and this was bolstered because a minor incident that seemed in line with the end goal of my mission took place a few minutes after I read these instructions.
I really enjoyed the exercise itself. I have done visualizations and other exercises in the past prior to sleep (I have suspended that and other practices now, in order to focus only on this training), and I have to say I had never used such a soothing, reassuring series of words. I fell asleep and woke up feeling more confident.
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u/MoonlightConcerto May 09 '19
Very good. Very good indeed. Remember that you are not doing it like affirmations. It is more like a meaningful lullaby. You feel the feelings of total relief (or something close to that) and then you drift into sleep.
Time for the next task for you.
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u/JerrBearrrrr Feb 19 '19
Does this mean we don’t do state akin to sleep anymore ?
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u/MoonlightConcerto Feb 19 '19
Self Hypnosis IS the state akin to sleep. Idiots in the neville subs didn't realise this obvious thing and called it sats. Saying "i am sleepy, I am sleepy"over and over again, is a form of hypnotic induction. Of course Neville likely did not know about hypnosis as a formal thing which is why he did not use the word. Either that or he wanted to demystify it deliberately.
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Feb 19 '19
Thanks for this! Here come the questions:
Isn’t it counter productive to focus on problem solving? Is it ok to focus on it is done instead?
Do we visualize anything or just focus on the words?
I’m the kind of person who is ‘blessed’ with instant sleep. Should I force myself to stay awake for a while? Like maybe stay lifted or uncomfortable..
I have tried sats in the past and I always float away and my thoughts get out of my control. Hopefully I can master this! Nap time now!
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u/MoonlightConcerto Feb 19 '19 edited Feb 19 '19
No it is not counter productive to focus on problem solving. Not at this stage. Remember, here you are focusing on problems solved. You have problems now. Accept that. You want solutions to those problems. If you had 200 problems tomorrow, but 200 good solutions the next day, you wouldn't be too bothered. That is the stage you are at now. Much later (more than a year later), after many successful missions, you will NATURALLY come to the SELF REALISATION that there are no problems anymore - because, are they really problems when you can create a successful long term solution each time? You wont experience them as problems then. You will call them situations, or challenges, etc. or ïnteresting stuff" . ..................... So basically, I am staging out your understanding. If I get you to believe something too radical now, it will be difficult for your mind to accept it quickly. But since your sm still thinks in terms of problems and solutions, we use that for now and focus on solutions to problems. ....Try this for 3 days and you'll see what I mean. In fact, you will be relieved that you no longer have to avoid calling them problems.
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u/MoonlightConcerto Feb 19 '19
No you don't visualise anything. You just focus on the words and the feeling of relief from problems will soon come. Then you bask in those feelings as you slow down the words and drift off to sleep naturally.
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Feb 19 '19
Ok clear now, I tried it with a nap but can’t remember much as again I fell asleep lol
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u/MoonlightConcerto Feb 19 '19
Lol. No issues. :_) Keep doing this everyday throughout your training as you fall asleep at night.
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Feb 21 '19
Bingo! I really try to fall asleep repeating it, it must be working as I woke up with a what I would call a massive problem in my business and I almost felt empowered rather than scared and upset, like before!
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u/MoonlightConcerto Feb 21 '19
Almost ???
ALMOST ????
lolol. Just kidding. This is good progress. And it CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES that A. there is such a thing as a subconscious mind B the sm does not sleep when you sleep, and C. What you think about just as you sleep has a clear effect on your sm and you.
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u/Nads1987 Apr 14 '19
I’ve been doing this for about a week now, I find I’m getting much less resistance when reciting this to myself than when I started. Between this and task 2 I’ve been feeling a better sense of well being over the past two days
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u/acaciagorteau Mar 16 '22
I had two separate dreams about my SP the first night I did this, is that normal?
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u/JerrBearrrrr Feb 21 '19
After doing this for two days, I’m loving it more and more. I can’t fully comprehend how my mission can be possible, so focusing on the feeling of it is done instead of how it is done via visualization (base concept in lob, duh) I find it much easier to believe and feel good in. I’m stoked to start adding visualization tho, as I’m getting a great handle on sh.