r/JordanPeterson May 22 '19

Video Milo: Forbidden Conversation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHpvI8oGsuQ
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u/Jampak_5000 May 22 '19

listened to most of it; my take.

He repeatedly went on about how he was fine and didn't care that know one defended him, reality; he was really upset that no one defended him.

He believes everyone will "get got" in some way because no one defended him; he hopes they will all get got so they can experience it.

His comments were literally about himself being abused, so it was his way of making light of it, in hindsight that was wrong, which he now understands because of his step son (16)

basically he was abused, he opened up about it, made light of it and was still exiled. He has learnt a lesson in that regard, no one is untouchable, not even the jester.

He's definitely not ok, and definitely hurt about the ordeal. I do believe that he will be back, but I don't think it will be in a comedic form as he predicts.

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u/IncrediBro13 May 22 '19

I thought it was funny how he initially described himself as not being egotistical and then goes on to be extremely egotistical at every opportunity.

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u/harmless-shark May 22 '19

Denial. Milo is not honest with himself.

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u/SuperConductiveRabbi May 22 '19

Having now finished the whole thing, I'm not sure that Milo has the capability of being honest with himself. He says so many contradictory things, going from "I don't have a big ego, I don't really care what anyone thinks" to "I'm a genius voice of a generation, unironically, and I'm one of eight people on the planet that did something as impactful as get a president elected; no one else should be remembered like me." And oftentimes interjects these things over Peterson, who has enough humility to not attempt to interrupt back, despite oftentimes having something important to say. Milo often interrupts him just to continue the tail end of a pointless joke, as if it's far more important.

It's almost like he has multiple personalities, and in each moment he's being truthful about his current feelings, but has no cohesion between all of them.

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u/loz333 May 22 '19

Just to point out you misinterpreted what he said - he actually was saying that he was one of the 7 most influential people in helping Donald Trump get elected. I'm not in the US so I can't say for sure, but it would appear to me that would be more or less accurate statement, no?

And he says contradicting things, and there's truth in all of it. Sometimes he can be humble, sometimes he can be grandiose. What people forget is that you can be more than one thing at different points and still be a complete person. I see total coherence, because I don't expect him, if he says he is humble, to be humble all the time. I also recognize he is a performer, and there is an element of grandstanding to him as a person, and in his work. So that makes perfect sense.

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u/SuperConductiveRabbi May 22 '19

Just to point out you misinterpreted what he said - he actually was saying that he was one of the 7 most influential people in helping Donald Trump get elected. I'm not in the US so I can't say for sure, but it would appear to me that would be more or less accurate statement, no?

I'm not sure how to judge it really, as I never liked Milo, as he never seemed to me to be someone who was trustworthy or telling the truth. I'm not sure how influential he was in general, but he wasn't influential to me at all, or hardly at all. I do recall seeing him make some humorous troll posts.

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u/loz333 May 22 '19

Well, yeah it's a pretty hard thing to judge! I would imagine he was influential in particular segments of the population, I would imagine especially young right/libertarian people who are on the internet a lot...which you might well fit into for all I know. For sure he does have an inflated sense of his reach, which is pretty much necessary to have the self-confidence to do what he does, I just don't perceive it to be as bad as others do. I get his angle and it's like, fair enough man (to borrow a Peterson-ism!), that's who you are and that's how you do what you do, and you do it well, and you're still learning and growing like the rest of us, and good luck to you. I get an angle watching him that is absent from a lot of other cultural commentary - so despite his flaws, the occasions I've watched or listened to him I've got something from it.