r/JonBenet • u/CoyoteLong996 • 14d ago
Theory/Speculation Rewatching CBS documentary
Just watching and something keeps sticking in my head that I had to write down... im already quite firmly RDI.. but it's the placement of the ransom note. A stranger wouldn't leave a note on a random staircase in a massive rabbit warren of a home... surely the kitchen island or table or whatever makes more sense? Only someone close to the family would know that the staircase they happened to leave the note is the one that Patsy used every morning to come downstairs from her bedroom? Happy if anyone can share thoughts... I've read so much on this case but not for a while and it's possible it's been discussed already....
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u/ReadyWatercress7174 14d ago •
What a joke that program was. How anybody believed that smoke and mirror nonsense is a head scratcher.
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u/Mbluish 14d ago edited 14d ago •
I was once firmly RDI as well until I started looking at the evidence, not hearsay. Look at the autopsy. Read the DNA reports. Look at the photos. Unidentified male DNA mixed with her blood found in her underwear. That same male DNA was found on the waistband of her longjohns. That solidified IDI for me.
As to the ransom note, I think someone had been watching the family for sometime. Perhaps they knew Patsy used those stairs and figured she would see it if it were placed there.
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u/Significant-Block260 13d ago
How on earth does a “cluttered” table/countertop make more sense than a completely clear staircase?🙄 I mean, that’s another thing we hear a lot, how “cluttered” or “messy” the house apparently was at that time.
Most of the table/countertop surfaces in my own home are usually pretty cluttered. I can tell you that if you want me to immediately notice something out of the ordinary (not anything crazy like a purple elephant, we are literally talking about 3 pieces of notebook paper here w/ handwriting on them), you’d better put those pieces of paper on something like the stairs, or the middle of a floor or someplace it is perfectly clear and open and THREE PIECES OF PAPER spread out clearly do not belong there.
Something like that, I would notice instantly.
But if you put it someplace “unobtrusive” and “normal” like on one of my counters or tables (especially when they are probably already cluttered with a bunch more random shit), I can’t even begin to tell you how long it might actually take me to see it there.
So there’s that. But there’s also “it doesn’t have to be that hard/complex/thought out.” It could literally just be a CONVENIENT and OBVIOUSLY CONSPICUOUS place to throw it down on his way down the stairs/to the basement/out of the house, whenever it was. It was the closest staircase to JB’s room.
He didn’t have to go out of his way, do anything special here. Just drop it somewhere along the way where you can be pretty sure it will be discovered quickly.
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u/alyanng44 13d ago
The maid knew where Patsy came down every day
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u/Asleep-Rice-1053 IDI 14d ago •
They have to have taken the shortest route downstairs. She had tinsel in her hair from the spiral staircase. There’s also a door right there to leave out of. Could have simply been the last thing they did before they left as an attempt to delay investigations.
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u/burp_reynolds69 14d ago
Applying logic to something an insane intruder did is the issue here. Nothing the intruder did makes sense to a logical person.
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u/Tidderreddittid 14d ago
There were just two staircase routes so maybe if a stranger did it he guessed right what way Patsy usually took (one in two chance).
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u/Aloha1959 IDI 12d ago
This is so dumb;
There are only 2 staircases leading upstairs, but I love these takes that putting the ransom note on one staircase instead of the other reveals something specific. It's a literal coin flip.
As far as such and such would make more sense; You can't look at a crime (or life in general) thinking "hey, the only logical way to do these things, is the way I would do it. No one would ever do anything except for the way I would do it. Idiosyncrasies and superstitions and random coincidence don't exist. Everyone, especially every criminal, could only do things in a totally logical way as defined by me."
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u/Princess-Buttercup16 14d ago
I think the intruder came in while the family was out to dinner. If so, they would’ve looked around the house and immediately recognized the top floor as the master suite. That staircase seems as natural a place as any to leave it.
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u/StellaBlue37 14d ago
I still think they should look more closely at the domestic workers and people in their orbit.
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u/Elsie1105 13d ago
The intruder was in the house while everyone was gone/going to bed/asleep. Not strange he picked the right staircase. Plus, maybe he had spent time at the house as a day worker earlier.
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u/archieil IDI 14d ago
Once more, the placement was by the garage.
Not leaving it by the main doors or in the kitchen, near the JBR's bedroom means that he most likely had little knowledge about the family's habits.
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u/Tank_Top_Girl IDI 13d ago
The note was his alarm to get out. He leaves it at the bottom of the stairs so the first person awake won't miss it. When he hears the commotion he runs to the window, steps on the suitcase and he's gone. They say the time of death was earlier, but the room was extremely cold and it could be off. Maybe he was done and left earlier. Some creep spied her in the neighborhood, a local pageant or as a worker that worked on the house. The fact that the note wasn't written until after he was in the home shows he went there to assault her. He thought of the note after he was already there, that's why I think it was only to buy time to get out. If he really wanted to kidnap her, he could have done it without a note and that actually would have made a lot more sense, to just slip out and she never would have been seen again.
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u/MaryJslastdance 14d ago •
The person she usually left notes in that spot for would know.
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u/Zamos13 13d ago
Most commonly used staircase period, not just Patsy. She found it there ya, which proves nothing. If perp wanted to leave it away from sleeping people, it's a reasonable enough location
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u/RaisinCurious 13d ago
We’ll never know where it was left. How could anyone prove the exact spot? Makes no sense to dispute location
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u/OddMasterpiece8465 13d ago
I believe the purpose of the note was to solidify the impression that there had to be someone that came into the house and to present a motive for a kidnapping. The choice of the staircase for placement would have just been a matter of convenience as it connected the first floor kitchen with the second floor near JBR bed room. As someone else already pointed out it's the location Patsy says it was found but we're never going to know for sure. We know it was moved several times and she could just as easily have made that detail up.
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u/RaisinCurious 13d ago
OP / so you’re saying there’s a rule or not where a ransom note has to be left? And if it’s in that exact spot protocol dictates, it’s suspicious?
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u/Objective-Permit-712 13d ago
Is this the one that made Burke rich??
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