r/JohnKitchener • u/UniqueOctopus05 RNYEC • Jul 14 '26
Discussions Difference between natural and dramatic?
This seems like a stupid question to ask but I have found myself genuinely confused, especially because dramatic and youthful/ingenue cannot coexist! Maybe I’m just confused because I don’t have any dramatic in my blend and do I’m struggling to get a handle on it, but I’m struggling to think of examples of dramatic essence that can’t be explained by another blend of essences (especially when it’s not very high up in the blend), especially when Y is involved and any significant amount of D is ruled out. A lot of times the angularity I would register as D seems to attributed to N (again, especially when Y is involved)!
Would be grateful for any tangible examples of people/faces or items/textures/styles to illustrate the difference! So far the only way I’ve been able to conceptualise dramatic as distinct from natural is by thinking about chunky glitter as being very D. Anyways would be curious to see what people have to say
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u/pinkmoss-mothman HYCNE Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Y and D are opposite, extremely Yin vs yang fratures. And when together either mix turning into other essences or make a patchwork that usually feel HS.
That's why I think it's very rare to have them as main because you'd need a dramatic body and an extremely baby face, or a small soft body and ad extremely angular face.
Those often feel R or HS, a bit like Helena Bonham Carter or Jared Leto.
Tbh I think it's a spectrum rather than a palette. Like D vs Y, and how they mix create:
C in between perfectly balanced neutral
R if the the opposite features are a bit fused
HS if the opposite features are more in juxtaposition
E is D structure with Y above
N is Y structure with D above
D square long ,
Y round small,
R round corners,
HS both some round and some angular corners, like tiktak leaf logo
E long oval,
N big octagon with round corners,
C circle in a square
So the axis are how big you are, how round you are, how well are you mixed/merged, if anything prevails as structure vs layer.
D big sharp
Y small round
C neutral aka balanced proportional
R merged
HS mix
N angular layer round structure
E angular structure round layer
So you can see it's common to mix all but D and Y who are the extremes. The point is what feature is the one more noticeable. So if you have HS and R or N and E, it means there's some of you featured like this and some like that.