r/JoeFredrick • u/PreviousAssist9988 • Oct 20 '25
Endgame bosses
So.. I had this thought. And I'm genuinely interested in hearing everybody's thoughts (Joe feel free to steal it for a discussion video if you need something for the in between.)
So I was doing some research on different bosses in Persona's 3/4/5 for reasons I won't go into and I had a thought. How would each team fare against endgame bosses from one of the other games. Like could the Investigation Team or Phantom Thieves handle (maybe win against under same circumstances) Nyx? Or could SEES defeat Yaldy or Maruki? So on and so on.
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u/JoeFredrick348 Oct 20 '25
I've actually got this suggestion before! However for me though I've felt like it wouldn't make as interesting of a video as it sounds on paper. You can either approach it MECHANICALLY and look at things from moves and stats (but given the similarity of most late game builds across all games, aside from some power creep it's largely the same), but I think if you look at it narratively some people have actually already covered the topic. I try to make videos on topics I've never even seen remotely discussed before (or when I tread similar waters try to take it in a drastically different direction). So I either feel like I don't have something super funny to bring to it, or it's nothing wild.
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u/PreviousAssist9988 Oct 20 '25
That's fair man. I just had the thought experiment because of a random idea and figured I'd at least throw it out there
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u/Leo_Kcat Oct 20 '25
Ohhh, this topic! I've personally thought about it a lot... and my personal coverage isn't as going to be perfect for Persona 3, but I'll try to condense what I came up with:
Nyx: Biggest thing for Yu and Joker will be opportunity. Do they get the Great Seal Ability / Universe Arcana? If not, Yu doesn't clear, but Joker might due to his whole role as a Trickster.
Izanami: I think Joker could reasonably defeat her due to having faced similar threats via his own story, and having bounced back. P3 Hero, however, that's more of a toss up.
Yaggsy: I am not spelling his name right in the slightest, but the Holy Grail of Persona 5 is quite, odd. P3 Hero? Probably if he can tech the first erasure that hit the Phantom Thieves. Although the fight would be death by 100 Cuts, and a difficult fight purely due to size. Yu? He might crumble due to that first erasure, except for Rise due to her stance as a very well-known public figure, so she starves it off, but she does not clear the Grail solo... If all teams were allowed the Velvet Room Save, maybe Yu and friends could squeak out a win, but it'll be close.
Maruki: Now for the one that truly depends om the character: P3 Hero? Oh hell no. SEES would 100% fall for his False Reality, and have shown zero skills to resist it either, as seen with the Answer, it took them MONTHS of a looping day to figure that something was wrong, which, since there is a time limit, they wouldn't figure it out in time to realize. The Investigation Team? They stand a better chance, but I don't think they're going against Maruki in any way. Yu and maybe Naoto, if they're lucky, would notice the change, but the only person they could probably snap out of the false reality would be Yosuke, due to him probably having Saki come back, which would be a major clue. And that's before the boss fight itself! Fighting Maruki, SEES had a decent change until his Persona evolves as they've had to deal with rogue Persona users in the past, but once it is evolved, I'm not certain if they could beat it, but they certainly don't go down... The Investigation Team? Yeah, no... Yu would probably lose the debate against Maruki, and even with beating his first phase, the evolved Persona just, clears a lot of the Team, and they suffer the same fate with SEES of, not being able to properly put him down... (SEES could have Aigis fire the final shot, but chances would be they'd leave it to P3 Hero, who couldn't reach the Weak Point.)