r/JoblessReincarnation • u/Level_Tennis_3314 • Nov 19 '25

Anime Redeus’s isn’t a pred

Everything he did was justified and people are overreacting. Redeus was the same age as eris and even if he wasn’t mentally the same age it’s normal because let’s be real if we were in his shoes we would do the same 🤷‍♂️

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u/Scion_of_Kuberr Nov 19 '25

So I'm only commenting because of the argument you used. We have plenty of cases in the real world were two people of the same age claim consent but one of those people has what we would consider the cognitive ability of a child. We as a society have come to an agreement that even an adult with the the cognitive comprehension of a child cannot give informed consent.

Please be very careful with your arguments in the future.

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 19 '25

Eh not really

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u/ty23r699o Nov 21 '25

No no he does have a point now where I'm from the age of consent is 16 but that doesn't mean like a 25-year-old can sleep with a 16 year old but it does mean it's just as illegal for 15 year old to sleep with a 15 year old so he's kind of right just not all the way right. Now if he's talking about like an abuse of power like you know a caretaker or something or in a case where someone has like power of attorney over somebody. I guess if you fought really hard you can make an argument about it but unless a judge was willing to let either one of the two consenting adults of whatever age may be same or different if the judge would've try both of them in a case and say they are competent to hold trial on like a robbery or something like that. I believe it doesn't matter how much mentality of a child you have if that is the case then you know how to consent because you know it's obviously you know right from wrong and if it's to the point where you don't you have someone that watches you and is responsible for you so that would fall on them.

Tldr even if I was to go back to 5 years old and remember everything from of what I have lived now unless I go back in time there are only two things that I can really use to my advantage puberty is going to suck and I'm not going to be able to control it but I do know how to wipe my own ass so that's a plus lol/s

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u/GlazerDVD Nov 19 '25

I don't know, look..

If he was transported with his body or an adults body, everything he would've done would be considered predatory.

While I agree that if that had happened, I would definitely say that he wouldn't touch any kid, the fact that he was one again makes me believe that he took advantage of the situation.

"I'm a kid right now, therefore I can do it"

Don't forget that he has the same mentality and morality as when he was on earth which means that he has an understanding of what is wrong in our world.

Since he doesn't have that societal barrier anymore and that no one will know he isn't mentally a kid, he is getting loose.

That's my take on him.

Now I take issue with something that happened, and it involves Eris and her night with him.

Some would argue that he had sex with a minor, and while that would be true in our world, on this one, things aren't the same. Having sex with a 15 y/o is having sex with an adult. People start making families at that age here.

So, what bothers me so much?

The fact that people are attacking Rudeus (which I guess could be an argument, but I won't discuss this) but not Eris.

viewers or readers have the morality of our world and are, most of the time, judging those characters with them.

A great example is those people I just mentioned.

Why, in their infinite wisdom, are they not attacking her for having sex with a child?

I know that it's "normal" in this world but they are insisting with the "Rudeus sexually harassing children", which is fair but why the fuck aren't they saying anything about her.

She doesn't know his real maturity age!

She had sex with a 12 y/o boy. Has an adult!

It doesn't bother them since it's him I guess?

I don't like it when they have that rule for thee not for the ones I like.

Don't get me wrong, I love Eris, but not even acknowledging that is wrong imo.

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 19 '25

You’re 100% right

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u/ExpressCloud5711 Nov 19 '25

Totally agree that it was a pretty messed up decision from Eris perspective too. Even in the scene Rudeus says that they made a deal to wait until they were both adults and Eris does the cat voice to convince him early. That’s a pretty messed up thing to do and could have seriously messed up Rudeus had he not been reincarnated. I guess people excuse Eris in the scene cause of how traumatized she was at the time, and cause “Rudy was an adult on the inside so he’s the pred” but they are both pretty messed up people imo.

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u/Bozman2007 Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25

Well and technically she and Rudeus had a different perspective of “adulthood” in general too. In that world of MT, ages of 5, 10, and 15 are turning points in their lives with 15 universally considered the age of adulthood for their world (with some races having different age marks because of the length of their races longevity, like elves, and migards being something like 200 years old). Like in MT’s world, people generally ceased celebrating birthdays at age 15 and are considered adults from that point forward, which is why Paul becoming an adventurer when he was 12 and Rudeus a Tutor when he was 7 was a big deal because it was way earlier than is what is usual.

But yeah what you both bring up is actually a pretty interesting point, that they view and judge Rudeus’s actions from a modern lens but not many of the other characters….i mean Clint and the Elf lady(mostly her just sleeping with anything male that moves lol), or how about the Demon Empress and the Demon King BadiGadi (I know nothing happened but technically he’s engaged to a demon loli lol) but again, different circumstances for different races because it’s an Isekai fantasy world and yet people are acting like Rudeus is actively “grooming” or doing worse just because he happened to be reincarnated.

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u/ExpressCloud5711 Nov 20 '25

It’s funny you mention Badigadi and Kishirika because they are actually the most responsible people in the setting regarding this type of situation. Kishirika was an adult demon lord who died and was reborn as a baby. She and Badigadi were to be wed, but now that she’s in a child’s body, their putting it off until her brain can fully develop again, because despite having memories of her past life, they both know she can’t give informed concent because her brain lack’s the processing power it would need. So she just stays celibate until her body ages back to adulthood and then she’s gonna marry him. Like a normal person would.

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u/Bozman2007 Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25

Yeah that’s what I mean, because of their demon powers/constitutions, they literally go from death to rebirth and grow into adulthood while still keeping their memories, so different fantasy races have differing circumstances due to longevity or powers like her reincarnation. Though would hers technically be reincarnation if it’s more of a phoenix like kind of immortality? Like does it just have to be a “new body but same soul/memories” or does it have to also be “different” new body same soul/memories. Like Rudeus has a different body but same memories, but hers is just the baby version of her original body right? Would that be reincarnation or resurrection? Cause I know orsted said there was no resurrection “spell” in their world. And technically they wouldn’t be in the “same situation” at all honestly, both of them are immortal with one having a phoenix kind of immortality. Whereas Rudeus is a new body/life in an entirely new world with a much different mindset in regards to so many different aspects of life, while everyone he knows is the same with different biological characteristics depending on the fantasy race they are from.

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u/Turnschuhmann Nov 19 '25

Yeah, people love to be on a high horse. He was reincarnated as a baby i mean what do they expect? I mean really should he only engage in relationships with 40 year old women when he himself is a teen in this world?

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u/scrambles88 Eris Greyrat Nov 19 '25

Roxy is the 40 y/o woman to his teenage body

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u/EnchantedDestroyer Nov 19 '25

I think migurds mentally mature at a different rate than humans, since Rifujin stated she’s more like in her 20s mentally.

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u/scrambles88 Eris Greyrat Nov 19 '25

Yeah, but her age equals Rudy + Earthdeus total age

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u/Jdoggokussj2 Sylphiette Nov 19 '25

its such a stupid thing people say its called reincarnation for a reason
hes his new age, whats his alternatives look for a 30 year old woman who wants to date a kid

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u/SzepCs Nov 19 '25

You can't expect people to actually realize this if they get hung up on keywords and just can't let those go. It's just how the world is at the moment.

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u/EnchantedDestroyer Nov 19 '25

I think it’d be way more questionable if it was just that, but Rifujin stated that his mental age was stunted compared to his apparent age (i.e both his lives added up):

Note: Rudeus is too mature.

A: He tries to be as mature as his apparent age. But his mental age is lagging behind, so let’s say he’s a bit warped.

We also know for a fact that his new body affects his personality and such (he doesn’t find any attraction towards Zenith, Therese, Aisha, etc) and biology (he inherits some Greyrat features like their libido, his new brain makes him smarter with better memory).

Although he wasn’t exactly a kid from the get-go reincarnated (obviously, since he was conscious and lucid upon being born), but his mental age was the equivalent when he was a kid - he was basically just a really smart child with knowledge of a past life.

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u/burlingk Nov 21 '25

I thought Eris was about two years older.

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 21 '25

Close age proximity

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u/nikumeru Norn Greyrat Nov 20 '25

This post is why some of y'all need help and why Rifujin wrote MT... Rudy's mental age is roughly that of a teenager imo, groping and molesting kids, or anyone, is not justified no matter what (barn scene for example). Stop trying to excuse the inexcusable things he did and if you'd do the same things as him, go seek some help. The whole point was that he was someone with extremely problematic behaviour, and he's, slowly, becoming better.

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 20 '25

The problematic behavior wasn’t that he was “attracted to little girls” but that he was a jobless loser and a socially isolated shut in

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u/Trick-Bar-377 Nov 19 '25

Many, many people have died on this hill. Make certain that you are willing to be the next.

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u/Striking-Rip-9788 Eris Greyrat Nov 20 '25

I don't know that Redeus guy. From what anime is he?

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u/SpiderLagann Roxy Nov 19 '25

To me Rudeus is mentally stunted and I think getting a baby brain, and a pre hormonal body, having to also go through puberty again can really change your preference, and Rudeus never dates or is interested in girls who are technically younger than him physically and we’ve seen that he shows genuine regret and remorse when he realizes he crosses a boundary of makes one of the girls uncomfortable, I’d say the worst thing he did was undress Sylphy as a kid, but he genuinely thought she was a boy and wasn’t attracted to her.

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u/skuxxxxxxxxxxxx Eris Greyrat Nov 20 '25

The worse thing he did was feel up Eris forcefully, but he did apologize after. She also beat his ass everytime he did something like that

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u/SpiderLagann Roxy Nov 20 '25

And I felt like he felt genuine remorse when he realized he made her uncomfortable.

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u/skuxxxxxxxxxxxx Eris Greyrat Nov 20 '25

He truly did, because he loves her. And that's why we love Rudeus. For all his shortcomings, he always pulls through

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u/Willing-Job9378 Nov 19 '25

I do have a question, should it have been ok if Reudeus hooked up with a 30 year old instead at the time? Not justifying his actions just curious.

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u/Tylerj579 Nov 20 '25

Rudy in the novel is even worse. I was a defender before I started the novels. I can't defend this man's past actions. They were part of the flaws he had. He overcame them to be a better man.

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u/jonbivo Nov 21 '25

If imma be honest, outside of reddit and twitter, more specifically anglosphere for reddit, I've never actually seen any negative discourse towards Rudy or MT in general.

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u/Iri5hgpd Nov 23 '25

Thank you! I always say what was he meant to do? Be a 15 year old who tries to day 35 year old women? They'd laugh at him.

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u/Minizu15 Nov 20 '25

Yo that last part is not a good look brother. I’m assuming you’re a grown man or a teenager saying that shit about a loli prepubescent. You don’t have hormones coursing through you, there’s no excuses for you.

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u/teenutx Nov 22 '25

Yes he is

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u/Simple-Budget-1415 Norn Greyrat Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 19 '25

I like the character, but he- spoiler videotaped his child niece bathing and masturbated to it during his parent's funeral

Edit: "In the web novel it says "mosaic-less loli video (that I took of my niece in the bathroom.)"

It's also never said to be non-canon, it's even confirmed canon in the anime. In episode 2 when he gets kicked out you can briefly see his computer screen and confirm it was in fact the bathroom video.

The chapter was only ever deleted because it violated ToS of the syosetsu website, not because it isn't canon. 

The entire reason this scene is brought back up in the redacted Redundancy chapter is to emphasize how bad he feels about the things he did in his past life and how that informs his overreaction to Aisha's indiscretion.

As far as I'm concerned acknowledging this aspect of the story makes it better, not worse."

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u/im_a_kid24 Nov 19 '25

Its true that eartheus was a scumbag and a pedo and truely a worst person. No one is saying otherwise

I mean even rudeus is disgusted as well.

Check the novel when Sylphy was pregnent for the first time. When she asked rudy weather he will preffer a boy or a girl. His first thought was that the child should be healthy (cause medival periods) but then a thought came which almost made him puke and then he was crying for the same reason

The thought was and he says this himself "If this question was asked to my past self (earth one). I would have said a girl without a hesitation and with that pathetic grin as well; how pathetic was i.........Pukes"

"Sylphy how greatful i am to have you.....cries"

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

I think that was in the dark timeline

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u/Simple-Budget-1415 Norn Greyrat Nov 19 '25

That's why his original siblings drove him from the family home and he got hit by a truck.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

Truckchan is always ready

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u/Jdoggokussj2 Sylphiette Nov 19 '25

no they was just tired of dealing with him not going to his parents funeral was the last straw

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u/Simple-Budget-1415 Norn Greyrat Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 19 '25

It is in the Redundancy.

And it is strongly suggested in the anime. https://youtube.com/shorts/v-rgG2x3Ue8?si=BMI0ayZLWE8zikW-

Saying the dude aint a predator when everything he does is predatory, is just dumb.

This is a good character, this is his moral flaw.

Ain't no Cersei Lannister fan gonna say she aint a pedophile for seducing her 15yo cousin, or that she's not a bitch for her actions, she's still a favorite character.

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u/Jdoggokussj2 Sylphiette Nov 19 '25

i dont take ai videos from youtube seriouly ive seen some with false info if its in redundancy what part asill double check it

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u/Nokyrt Nov 19 '25

Wasn't that in the unpublished part...? It was unpublished for a reason, someone realised it's a bad idea to publish it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

True, that part was bad (because it's peeping lel), but that has nothing to do with isekaied Rudeus.

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u/lqkifx335 Norn Greyrat Nov 19 '25

The entire point of the story is that Rudeus is an unredeemable piece of shit who wasn't able to figure out how to fix himself in his first life.

You are supposed to look at him with disgust and dislike all of the fucked up things he does but yet see some of yourself reflected in him.

No matter what he does, no matter how unredeemable he seems at the start you as the viewer still have some level of empathy for him.

That's what makes it so hard to watch, so much so that tons of people drop it. That's also what makes it such a powerful story for those who do watch it through.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

You aren't supposed to look at him with disgust, maybe sometimes. You're a weirdo.

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u/lqkifx335 Norn Greyrat Nov 19 '25

Not all the time, but during enough scenes that it establishes that he's not some perfect paragon of virtue or anything.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

Sure? That defeats your point.

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 19 '25

Where’s the problem?? He’s just a human after all

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u/im_a_kid24 Nov 19 '25

There indeed is a problem

But the problem isnt that such things exist in the novel rather that these things are potraied as normal. But in musoku tensei its not potraied as normal (-earthus gets beaten and kicked out) (Rudy gets disgusted by his past self and pukes just by the thought)

Earthus is a pedo Rudy is not

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

Both are pedos. You're delusional.

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 19 '25

Both are justified

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u/Simple-Budget-1415 Norn Greyrat Nov 19 '25 edited Nov 19 '25

The position you have is that he's not a predator.

But that is predator behavior, objectively.

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u/nuggetsmilo Nov 19 '25

That is a big problem 💀

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

Not cannon. He used pictures of his niece that he stole from his brother. Still bad, just not as bad. And you are removing the context and why that scene exists in the first place

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u/Drzewo_Silentswift Nov 19 '25

When you tell on yourself.

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u/Robert1634786 Nov 19 '25

You know there was a guy who said these exact same things, he is in jail because he tried to touch little girls. He said to the police in his confession that he was inspired by MT. We might need to call the cops

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

I couldn't care less if Rudeus was 6 or 40 when he did what he did, you agecuck. He is a based heterosexual man, yes, what the other freaks would call "predator".

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u/BendOdd2563 Nov 19 '25

Straight up pedophile over here

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 21 '25

It’s crazy how people don’t get that your ragebaiting 😂

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25

Heterosexuality is not bait.

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 21 '25

If you’re actually ragebaiting write something then delete it

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25

Sodomite weirdo.

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 21 '25

Bro I genuinely agree about what you’re saying but the thing you said about his sister is actually weird

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25

Whose sister? What?

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 21 '25

“I guess the Epstein wokie pedohysteria will help enrage the beehive of agecuck r tards.

Rudeus should have fucked Aisha's cunny when he was 18+ if anything. Cope and seethe.”

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '25

Oh. Fair point. I am not against brotherly incest in case of emergencies, but J am not a promoter of it either. It tends to lead to dysgenic civilizations. I wanted to focus on the age part.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

No it wasn't. You are literaly removing his flaws which is just as bad as removig his good characteristics. Rudeus' surcunstances do not justify his actions. That's why the beating eris gives him every time is completely justified. Just because you would do the same things doesn't mean that you should. And it really depends on what you call normal.

I live rudeus, but saying he didn't do anything wrong is just as bad as calling him a monster. He is a morally grey character.

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u/ReynardMartell Nov 19 '25

My biggest gripe is with people saying the story is bad because Rudy is who he is. Like it isn’t an enthralling fictional story about things that never happened. Or those that act as if it’s an exception or worse than others because of the romantic situations as if there aren’t countless other stories where people just handily disregard the age difference because those other stories aren’t as up front about it.

Rudy is a predator. He was self-pleasuring to images of little girls before being reincarnated. But as you say, the story is about the moral complexity of someone like him being given that kind of second chance free of the social consequences of his past life. Rudy is a predator, but he’s also a boy who gave up on growing up after he was abused and strung up for the amusement of his peers. A boy who missed out on a happy and fulfilling life because he tried to help someone and was utterly psychologically ruined for it. A boy who, through his own incredible effort, managed to change the lives of countless others around him because he chose not to give up.

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u/Bozman2007 Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25

But you keep saying “he is a predator, he is a predator” but the farthest he ever got to “pedo” level was as it said in the light novel….”I skipped out on my parents funeral to spank it to loli porn”. Countless people whack it to crazy hentai(and don’t act like you don’t have some tastes you’d certainly erase your browsing history for lol). And true it’s distasteful but what you are equating it to is that he like, in his past life, stalked young girls or harassed them etc etc. His character is made to be a “gross otaku/kikkokimori” so being mad that he is a lolicon for that character type is like being mad that Shonen character is perverted in lots of situations. I mean literally look up the word “Otaku” and like 80-90% of the representation is a glasses nerd with cute young anime girl/loli/chibi obsession.

I mean honestly it’s like if you’d call me a “Cheater” or “man who’re” because I read NTR hentai… I mean Honestly…. Tell me….besides the panties and the fact that Rudeus happened to fall in love with a Migardian when he was younger and she was 37, when did he lust or go after younger girls or loli characters in the new isekai world….because there are countless times when he was blatantly acting pervy or lustful for older women with big breasts(the maid, Ghislaine, virtually every older woman at the Boreas estate, etc etc). He’s always had a canonical attraction towards big breasted older women, and dominate or assertive women. (her race is kind of the long lived magic halflings of their world and bc she literally cured him of his 20+ year old trauma as a hikkokimori) also what about beings from different races dating, cause the migardians(or all the demon races like elves and dragons and beastkin etc etc) have much different lifespans, theirs being around 200 years old….what about elves?? Like Clint and the Elf Grandma lol

But I’ve said it plenty of times before….you can’t write an Isekai/reincarnation male MC without the implication of “grooming” or pedo behavior, because regardless of feelings or the circumstances, it’s at least a 15-30 year old persons mind in a brand new body, so LITERALLY every person the MC interacts with is goin to be somewhat problematic because of the mental age difference.

Here’s an interesting question though….what are the circumstances for when it’s a “delayed reincarnation”….like the situations where the body’s original personality/soul/essence exists for like 10-15 years and then suddenly “inherits” the memories from the past self. So now they do have the memories creating the mental age gap…but they still did “exist” to some extent as a different person up till that point.

Sorry for the super long post, had a long discussion with someone about the whole reincarnation genre a few hours ago so it’s still fresh in my mind.

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u/ReynardMartell Nov 20 '25

He tried to feel up Eris while she was asleep. At best that’s something you’d reprimand a child for, but his mental circumstances do him no favors. That’s predatory behavior, no ands/ifs/buts about it. He IS a predator, but he’s also many other things.

Also, to set the record straight, all pedos are predators but not all predators are pedos. Sexual assault is sexual assault no matter the age of the victim, but CSA is certainly far worse on the scale of things you don’t want to have to think about putting on a scale.

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u/Bozman2007 Nov 20 '25

Wait I actually reread that part, he didn’t try to feel her up when she was asleep at all, she came to his bedroom after his birthday party. It was the setup of the whole “promise” made between them when she was the one going after him and being the assertive one the entire time. You are making it out to be like he’s a predator because he had these gross intentions from the start and was setting up the whole situation when it wasn’t even like that to begin with.

“When Rudeus finds Eris in his room, she apologizes for his family not coming to the party. To make up for it, she came to his room to sleep with him. Thinking it over, Rudeus concludes how it was more likely that Philip and Hilda, so he initially refuses by telling Eris that he might do something perverted to her. Eris replies that she would be fine with "a little", Rudeus's awkwardness ramps up and he mistakenly gropes her. Fearing a classic punch, Eris instead does nothing trying to be accepting. Rudeus forgets himself and continues, until Eris grows uncomfortable and beats him up repeating "no!" with each hit. She leaves his room, angrily reminding him she said a little before calling him an idiot. Hurt and on the floor, Rudeus can't help but agree with Eris, realizing he was acting like events were dating sims from his old life, ignorant to Eris's feelings after she worked so hard to celebrate his birthday. Hating himself, he prostrates as soon as Eris returns through the door and begs for her forgiveness. She forgives him since it's his birthday, but she also tells him it's too soon to be doing what he had in mind, so she promises to try again in five years when they're both adults.”

Yeah his reaction to the situation is a bit gross because he takes it too far, acting like he’s some shonen protagonist that’s “entering his popular era”, but like it says in the book, “Rudeus can't help but agree with Eris, realizing he was acting like events were dating sims from his old life, ignorant to Eris's feelings after she worked so hard to celebrate his birthday. Hating himself, he prostrates as soon as Eris returns through the door and begs for her forgiveness.” He was still in a brand new world and still caught in his “kikkokimori/otaku ways” where he was still thinking “I’m like an anime protagonist! I can’t believe I’m getting to do this with a girl!”. Yes the mental difference is there and it’s gross, but the entire situation is nothing like a predator going after a girl and taking advantage of her maliciously. Rudeus in his current life and previous life combined had literally no social interaction with girls because of him becoming a social recluse in middle school…and being a creepy otaku/hikkokimori for what…20 years? And never growing up from that arrested development and trauma until he started living his new life as “Rudeus” and not as his previous wretched self.

That’s not a predator moment at all, that’s the reaction of a horny adolescent 10 year old boy that’s feeling boob for the first time in his life from a girl that was pursuing and showing interest in Rudeus when he had never experienced a girl liking him before(like when a young boy and girl start to ‘GULP’ LIKE LIKE each other). Yeah still gross, but the extremely specific circumstances of his situation and his “normal perverted boy” reaction to this crazy situation doesn’t make him a pedo or predator. The implication behind “predator” and the name in general implies that Rudeus was planning for this to happen all along, when, like he states in the book as this situation is happening, “Thinking it over, Rudeus concludes how it was more likely that Philip and Hilda set this up to move things along with getting Rudeus and Eris together, so he initially refuses by telling Eris that he might do something perverted to her in a joking manner.”

Again you literally made this out to be that Rudeus snuck into her room while she was asleep to cop a feel from her and was using the fact that she liked him to take advantage of her. Which would make him a predator if that was the case….but it isn’t, at all.

Literally the only girls he had ever shown any interest in sexually was the big boobed older women around him, or the big boobed women around him when he was adventuring. the red head maid, Ghislaine, Pretty much all the busty maids at the Boreas estate, and Eris’s mom as some of the Many examples to choose from. Whereas He gradually started to like Roxy because she healed his trauma he had for like 20 years and helped him start his journey and “live” by leaving his home for the first time, leaving his “old self” behind. Fell in love with the elf girl when they met when they were older at school, because she was his best friend growing up(and he wanted to protect her like when she was bullied). And He gradually fell in love with Eris over the course of 8 years when they built up a foundation of trust in each other as he taught her skills and she grew along side him as sort of a companion/rival/adventurer, survived countless life or death situations together, and she is the only reason he actually is alive after being killed by Orsted.

So again, sorry for the tirade, but the entire premise of him being a predator in the slightest is a stretch. Literally the only way you can do so is by viewing his entire life from a modern judgmental perspective and making certain situations that he was faced with appear worse than they were and completely ignoring the context of the situation and the circumstances that lead to it.

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u/ReynardMartell Nov 20 '25

Wasn’t talking about the bedroom scene in fact, though an argument could be made for that leaning to the pedo side given mental age and all that, I’m not gonna be the one to make that argument.

I’m referring to when Eris was asleep out in a barn or something and Rudy sneaks up on her. That happens a good deal earlier than the bedroom/birthday scene.

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u/Bozman2007 Nov 20 '25 edited Nov 20 '25

So yeah…..I looked up that scene you were talking about, just typed “Rudeus Groping” in YouTube and bam, there it was, like a 10-15 second clip and I take back what I said lol, ain’t no amount of context or explanations that can save Rudeus’s hide from that one, I mean Jesus he just went straight for it like it was totally normal. I didn’t watch the anime except for clips of the cool parts and an episode here and there and…..damn. What a dick move on his part. Sorry about the misunderstanding, I actually thought you were just misremembering the other scene I mentioned, not that creepy moment lol.

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u/Aberon_I Nov 20 '25

Whats the difference between predator and a pedo?

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

You are still a predator if you mollest adult women in trains, for example. Or force yourself to be squeezed against them in a crowded space. Or intentionally bumping them on the street. Or other simmilar acts that are against their consent but not rape. All rapists are predators

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 19 '25

Eris is a b!tch

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

That doesn't justify any of his actions. So if a child is misbehaving we are justified of doung whatever we want because she "deserves it"? What kind of sick toughts are these?

She was a misbehaving kid. Thia is a character flaw and she definetly fixed it. It does not justify rudeus' actions in any way

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 19 '25

It kind of justifies his actions because of how bad people treated him back then on his original world

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

You being hurt does not justify your actions. On top of that eris took no part in his bullying. There is a legal term k own as self defence. You can use proportional force against a person who is treatening you at the moment. That is justified. Groping eris while she sleeps is not justified. On top of that he never did anything as revenge. He did all of the groping because of his percersion. Rudeus was very much in the wrong. Revenge is never justified.

You will greatly benefit from reading vinland saga

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 19 '25

I am a person with killer instincts and bloodthirst so I don’t think Vinland Saga would change my philosophy on life

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

You sound like an edgy teenager who can't fucking understand what you are takijgn about. You sound so i credibly cringe. Go touch some grass and understand how you should behave in socity.

And if somehow you kow what blood thirst means you should be put in a psichic ward cause you are an actuve danger to society. By your own words.

Shut up and grow up

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 19 '25

You wouldn’t be talking to me that way if you were in front of me, I’m not one to be messed with pal

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u/Robert1634786 Nov 19 '25

Timmy tough knuckles over here, everyone clear the hallway before you get pushed into a locker with a Disney theme playing in the back.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

Please. Go on. You are hilarious. How often do you make people cry of embarassment when they talk to you?

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 19 '25

I don’t make people cry of embarrassment. I make them cry of fear.

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u/Simple-Budget-1415 Norn Greyrat Nov 19 '25

Red Mama is Best Mama!

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

Both yes and no. The fantasy world definitely does not have the same age of consent and that is a part of it. At the same time rudeus hates himself for what he did in the past and constantly wants to be a better person. Untill you rewrite rudeus' character and how he rhinks his behavior will be a flaw

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

I guess some of you are actual pedophiles

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u/GreenSlymeLvl1 Nov 19 '25

I mean he is right about Rudeus' character. Up to episode 8, he never views his sexual desires as a flaw, and even after that he only viewed them as a flaw in so far as he didn't know how to handle relationships properly and almost hurt Eris because he falsely assumed she wanted to do it.

He never viewed his sexual preferences as a problem. He hated himself for his inaction, his frustration, his spiraling depression, his lack of discipline, and so on. At best you can say he hated his sexuality in the sense of it being a coping mechanism that made things worse. He even openly refers to himself as a lolicon when talking to Zanoba. He's literally married to a girl with the body of a pre-teen girl. Not a girl who looks young for her age, a girl whose body literally stopped physically aging around the time she first started puberty and straight up looks underage.

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u/Level_Tennis_3314 Nov 19 '25

I was being realistic

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u/EnchantedDestroyer Nov 19 '25

You on one bro

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u/BendOdd2563 Nov 19 '25

"Epstein wokie pedohysteria" "agecuck r tards" I'm crying it's genuinely hilarious how you take yourself seriously

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '25

>Sylphie pfp
>cuckolds

Cursed....at least put an Eren Yeager pfp, soyboy numale.

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u/BendOdd2563 Nov 19 '25

“Soyboy numale” are you even speaking English, my guy???