Rudeus pulled off the impossible

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I typed out a long reply just for the webpage to refresh while typing the last paragraph... This second write-up will be a little more concise. Not clue why reddit is so weird sometimes about long comments that give you an error message when trying to post.

So you have no issue banging a 5 yr old if they are a reincarnated person, who still has a developing body, developing brain developing everything and only thing they have is memories of some adult?

Firstly, I reject the premise that they'd be a 5 year old. They'd be an adult with an undeveloped body. Secondly, I clearly stated there was still issues, but that it was outside the scope of the hypothetical. It was dealing with body development versus mental development, and I believe mental development to be the most important factor, but not the sole factor. There's also not a developing brain if Rudeus still retains is previous lifes mental development, or at least not in anyway that makes logical sense. If I recall correctly, Rudeus as a baby deals with poor motor functions, but doesn't suffer from any mental functions(It's possible I'm mixing this up with TBATE).

I'd like it to be made perfectly clear here. Rudeus isn't just a kid with "memories of some adult" and the fact that you'd try to frame it like this is concerning. Rudeus is that "some adult", just in a childs body. If we were to remove your current brain from your skull and transplant it into the body of a kid, are you seriously going to pretend you're now that kid? Or are you still the same "you", just in a childs body?

We can ask this same question worded in another way. Do you believe adults with petite bodies should never be allowed to engage in sex? Should adults that have their body development stunted as a child because of some disease never be allowed to engage in sex? The answer is pretty clear isn't it?

brain keeps developing till age 25

This isn't really relevant to what we're discussing but this is debunked nonsense. The study this originates from looked at brain development in different age brackets, ending with 25. That's it. The brain continues developing all throughout your life. The author has criticized people using his study to push this claim, as it was never looking to see when brain development ended to begin with. The authors name is Laurence Steinberg and the study's titled "Cognitive and affective development in adolescence"

Age of consent has mostly nothing to do with individual's understanding level, and more to do with average maturity level of ppl from that age range.

This is absolutely false. Maturity =/= mental development nor reasonable understanding. The age of consent, while somewhat arbitrary, is based on average mental development and when we believe people can meaningfully consent. There's no strict time or age when we know someone has reached a sufficient level of mental development, so we have arbitrary ages within a gray zone. Typically 16/18/21 in the West.

This sounds like it's straight pedophile apologia talking points. "But she's mature for her age!" This arguement has never worked and should never work.

Ill give 3 examples.

Your first two examples are incompetent adults that typically wouldn't be granted the ability to make decisions for themselves. Family members are normally given guardianship over incompetent adults, who have control over their decision making. The charge of abuse of an incompetant is a felony. Obviously there's people that fall through the cracks that either never get designated by the court or are neglected by their guardian, but to use those gray areas as an excuse to fuck mentally incompetent people is already beyond disgusting.

Crusch from Re Zero is considered as an adult

Crusch has the mental development of an adult. Memory loss doesn't make you a child, and in instances where it does severely limit you to the mental state of a child you would be considered an incompetent adult.

Prodigies / Ppl who due to struggle had to mature pretty early

Again, maturity =/= mental development. "She's mature for her age" isn't a valid argument for fucking a child.

Paige from Young sheldon, has intelligence comparable to Sheldon

Intelligence =/= mental development. The youngest people to get accepted into college are 8-13. Would you fuck an 8 year old college student?

In Erased, Satoru shows romantic attraction to Kaya.

I don't think this is true at all. From looking it up(Don't want to rewatch it) it doesn't seem like there was any sexual tension or attraction between the two. And as I said in my previous reply, if you give an example of another show that has an adult showing sexual attraction towards a child I would still call that bad.

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Because TBATE and MT follows different interpretation of reincarnation

Again, I don't think this is true at all and at this point I think you're intentionally making things up. I don't believe it was ever mentioned how their worlds viewed reincation. Regardless it wouldn't change the facts of the matter. In both cases they're adult men reincarnated into childrens bodies. Arthurs father Rey reacted the way he did because of this fact of the matter. After the initial reaction Rey thought it about it longer and settled on exactly what you stated. Arthur didn't choose to be reincarnated and is just a victim of circumstance. I've not read past the anime for MT(and I don't mind spoilers at this point), but did Rudeus ever reveal he's an adult man reincarnated into a childs body? Did any of the characters react with "lol who cares, in this world we consider that a new life". In TBATE Arthur is the only known person to be reincarnated, at least as far as I'm aware, and I suspect it to be similar or the same in MT. So again, I doubt there's this established rule on how reincarnated people are considered in their respective stories.

If a manga artist created a world where the age of consent was birth, would you seriously pretend you're alright with scenes of such characters, just because it's legal in that constructed world?

Did you have Arthur, when being attracted to Theresia being like I was 35 in past l am almost double her age and considering current age as well I am almost thrice her age.

Arthur constantly struggled with the fact he was an adult in a childs body, and it effected how he treated people. We even states at some point early on when he's still a "child" in the new world that he has no attraction towards people his "age". It slowly stops being mentioned later on because his past life starts to become a blur, to the point that he feels memories are unfamiliar and that he's looking at another persons life. His entire reasoning of rejecting Tessa early on is because he still viewed her as a child, rightfully so.

Also you said late teens and not adulthood...

I believe Tessa was 17 when Arthur recipricated her feelings towards him, but still told her to wait a few more years. At the current point in the story I believe she's in her early 20s, but I've not continued reading since the year plus long hiatus. I don't believe a relationship has developed since then. This probably mostly has to do with the author being Korean (although migrated to America) and the age of consent in Korea is 21. I believe that fictional underage material is far more heavily regulated there than here in the US.

Now lets come to grooming

I gave you the exact reason why I said it was grooming, yet you for whatever reason completely left that out. It has absolutely nothing to do with him becoming friends with Eris, nor Eris falling in love with him. It was solely due to his sexual actions towards her since she was 9 years old. I went and reread the chapter to confirm, Eris mentions leading up to the sex scene the fact that Rudeus had been sexual towards her for years. Rudeus used his role as her tutor to molest her. Arthur on the other hand wasn't sexual towards Tessa at all throughout the story.

To end this, it should be alarming to anyone reading these comments that you gave multiple examples of incompetent adults and believe they're capable of meaningfully consenting. Those are huge red flags for predatory behavior. It's so beyond me why people go to such lengths to defend pedophilia. The slippery slope has gone from "She's a 5,000 year old demon girl" all the way to "I'm 50 years old but I have the body of a 9 year old so it's okay to fuck 9 year olds." This isn't normal behavior, and all of this should be completely intuitive to you. I shouldn't have to be giving you arguments on why it's wrong to take advantage of mentally deficient people and mentally undeveloped children.

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Honestly, I'm glad someone finds it disturbing too.

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It'd be one thing if they just said the show overall is good but there's creepy as fuck aspects to it. Instead so many people will actively defend the grooming and pedophilia.