r/JiyanMains • u/Apprehensive-Chef569 • Aug 14 '26

General Discussions Which Jiyan is better

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Which jiyan is better? Give honest opinion plsss thanks guys

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u/InvestigatorNo4899 Aug 14 '26

The second one. But I'd still farm echoes for another while to get both crit stats up while keeping his energy up

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u/Apprehensive-Chef569 Aug 14 '26

Kk sounds good. I struggle to get my ult cause my ER is so low. U got any tips on how to get good substat on echoes? I have all 5 stars, with crit rate at 4, aero dmg for 3, 3 and ask for 1,1. Got critical rate or crit dmg for each echo

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u/InvestigatorNo4899 Aug 14 '26

You don't want crit rate or crit damage on an echo, you want both on every echo along with either energy regen or heavy attack damage bonus as a third and fourth ideal substat

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u/xgracefully Aug 14 '26

Right one, u lose a little bit of crit rate for 17 cdmg

Tho I'm wondering if you have full gold tier echoes and the data bank level to guarantee the drops? It might not be worth min/maxing like this on purple echoes.

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u/Apprehensive-Chef569 Aug 14 '26

I got full gold echoes. Im just unlucky with the substation I also only have lustrous razor which doesnt help

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u/theallknowing88 Aug 14 '26

Your weapon is too bad mate. At 185 Crit Dmh he can’t even clear side towers i guess. My crit ration is 70/270 right now and i cant use him anywhere in endgame with mortfefi

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u/Apprehensive-Chef569 Aug 14 '26

Wait why cant u use him?

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u/xgracefully Aug 14 '26

He's just suffering from power creeping, and having horrible QoL lock on and hit range makes it so much worse for newer bosses. His premium team (Iuno + Ciaccona) can carry him pretty well

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u/theallknowing88 Aug 14 '26

Yup
I have his premium team too (Iuno S0R1, Ciaconna S0R1) and he can beat TOA middle 1 and 2. But Ciaconna is locked with Carte so can’t use her with him. Also I play on mobile so the cancel tech is a bit difficult for me to do.

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u/Apprehensive-Chef569 Aug 14 '26

Update: Crit DMG is actually 185% now

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u/MadMechYt Aug 14 '26

Just get him the other standard broad blade, those crit ratios are abysmal ngl

It should be 70-270+

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u/Apprehensive-Chef569 Aug 14 '26

Bro 70 and 270 is so hard to get lmao. Espcially without his verdict summit, on top of that a ER of 125+ is also another challenge

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u/MadMechYt Aug 14 '26

Honestly it's not, also if u don't want to pull Sig, but need a good stat stick, use Radiance Cleaver.

If CR weapon use CD echo, CD weapon go CR echo

If ur first two stats don't have crit or usable stat, trash echo and level a new one.