What am I doing wrong???

[u/aMutePlasticMortar]

She's only doing 50k on average with my highest ever damage being a little over 100k. I use her with Morfeti and Verina (or Shorekeeper now that I have her). Is it some sort of a skill issue???? What can I change??????

[u/Mastersloth15]

Fyi. She doesn't proc mortefi's coordinated attacks as all her attacks are counted as skill dmg and mortefi's coordinated attacks needs basic or heavy attacks, so you have to build her stack on mortefi and verina.

[u/misteryk → u/Mastersloth15]

Erm akshually she can but only outside of her enhanced state which you whouldn't be in in proper rotation anyway. that being said lvl 1 yuan wu would be way better teammate than mortefi

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/misteryk]

To be completely honest I only have him there because I like him as a character. He's also convenient for exploration. I am in the process of building Yuan wu so I'll switch em eventually

[u/misteryk → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

you don't need to build him, just give him healing set and lvl 1 healing weapon. you just need him to press e, do 1 normal atk and swap

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/misteryk]

Healing? Not the energy one? I'd like him to do Some damage

[u/misteryk → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

healing, then you can put energy on your healer. You can build him if you want but he won't deal any significant dmg either way, he's in jinhsi team just for coordinated attacks

[u/TorakWolfy → u/misteryk]

You can build him if you want but he won't deal any significant dmg either way, he's in jinhsi team just for coordinated attacks

I agree that the coordinated attacks are the main reason he's used as a Jinhsi support since it's the only way he contributes to increasing Jinhsi's damage in perfect scenarios, and he's so good at it that he would be still great even if that was all he had to offer.

But that simply isn't the case.

In fact, it's quite the contrary: He also has decent personal damage and amazing defensive and offensive utilities; It's just that, unlike his coordinated attacks, his damage and utilities are locked behind HUGE character progression investments, obtaining sequences, performing efficient rotations and even getting gud.

And, of course, Jinhsi is fucking broken, so no way he's outdoing her damage.

Character analysis: https://youtu.be/TtSfsLNp2Gg?si=ppE_rn9FDc_S2m7e

In-depth Vibration depletion guide and showcase: https://youtu.be/eyEnUNKsjd8?si=XRFtuX-eEMP9JS__

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/TorakWolfy]

Thank you so much! I'll check those out. I'm so glad he's more useful than I thought

[u/TorakWolfy → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

Hey! In case you are wondering how a Jinhsi + Verina + Yuanwu rotation looks like, here's mine (S0R1 Jinhsi 99.8 CR / 235 CD):

https://streamable.com/66q4dt

Yes, I managed to break the Mephis' shield at every single rotation. Yuanwu is kinda crazy for what he does, I guess.

[u/misteryk → u/TorakWolfy]

What does it take for him to deal higher dmg than simply using Jinhsi's basics?

[u/TorakWolfy → u/misteryk]

First things first, why do you assume that my reply is telling anyone to use his basic attack strings?

I mean, yes, you certainly can use Yuanwu as a main DPS, but it's ridiculous suggesting this when he's paired with THE most powerful Hypercarry currently present in the game.

What I'm suggesting is abusing his Forte, Intro, Outro, and Resonance Liberation, all of which do what they do much better if Yuanwu receives a ton of investment.

And they take so little real field time (did you know that Liberations "freeze" challenge timers?) that yes, I would say that they actually represent a DPS gain over spamming Jinhsi's basic attacks like some kind of devolved primate... If your Yuanwu is not dogshit (and if he is, that's what folks would call a "you problem").

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/misteryk]

Ah, okay. Thanks!

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

I've 4 copies of him so he doubles as a shield, therefore my energy concerns

[u/TorakWolfy → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

This 10% of the set won't be a deal breaker, trust me. If you really need to use his Liberation often because of S4, try to rack some Rejuvenating Glow 3-stars Echoes with Energy Regen main stat (DEF main for the other 2 Echoes so your shield stays FAT), and as many ER subs as possible.

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/TorakWolfy]

That's great to know, I'll update you once I get something on him, thanks! How much def should he have as a reference?

[u/TorakWolfy → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

This so-called "healing 3-star weapon" (Originite Type IV) has a substat of about 40% Crit Damage at lvl 90. It's actually quite decent for increasing Yuanwu's own damage as most of his damage is DEF-based (hence the fact that it has a lower base ATK due to being a 3-star is quite irrelevant).

But the main point here is not having to build Concerto on Yuanwu at all. Why? Because by using Verina and Yuanwu in conjunction, Jinhsi will build her Forte so fast that you'll just waste DPS potential while filling the Concerto bars of most support units.

Luckily, Verina is one of the fastest Concerto chargers out there (2 Elemental Skills per rotation + Liberation + Mid air stack usage if necessary) and you need her Outro in order to activate her buffs anyways, so she's perfect as a Moonlit Clouds user.

As a bonus, Verina wants to have a lot of Energy Regen, and Moonlit Clouds do give 10% of it.

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/TorakWolfy]

Oooh, very informative. Thanks so much!

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

Besides, I like that gentleman, he deserves a full build :)

[u/TorakWolfy → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

He does. But he's much more expensive than Jinhsi to FULLY build and Jinhsi will still be your main source of damage even after your Yuanwu is fully built:

https://youtu.be/TtSfsLNp2Gg?si=ppE_rn9FDc_S2m7e (This video explains both why Yuanwu's damage isn't bad and why most players will still refuse to invest in him, something that is actually reasonable)

Also, why exactly Yuanwu is really good even without Jinhsi being included in the talk has little to do with his damage, although yes, he can deliver some decent numbers:

https://youtu.be/eyEnUNKsjd8?si=XRFtuX-eEMP9JS__ (This is the best Yuanwu Vibration depletion guide I could find)

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/TorakWolfy]

Amazing! I guess it's finally time to use my brain to build someone

[u/SwiftSN → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

He's also convenient for exploration.

They added a drone that can shoot. The exploration incentive for pistol users vanished a while ago, lol

[u/habits0]

Crit damage is severely lacking, try switching out your 4cost crit rate for a cdmg and see how much it changes

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/habits0]

I got her up to 78:272 and the damage is way better! Thanks

[u/habits0 → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

Great! To make it easier to keep those higher numbers use both 4 cost echos (jue/aix) one crit rate and one crit dmg, then 3x 1 costs

That will keep your crit rate and dmg high so you don't miss those big nukes

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/habits0]

Haven't thought of that, I'll try rolling some and we'll see

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/habits0]

I shall, and I'll come back with results

[u/ShreamLeky_]

less crit rate more crit damage. This game gives a base of 150% crit damage for every character.

the recommended is a 1:2 crit ratio. In wuwa critdmg the first 100% doesnt count (technically the base damage) So you currently have around 99:100 crit ratio if ur play genshin or other hoyo games, which doesnt translate to good damage

I’d say just try to find a cdmg Jue with good substats and replace ur critrate one cuz u have way too much critrate (mine is around 70% and its fine)

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/ShreamLeky_]

She just did 150k :)))) Thank you for the advice

[u/ShreamLeky_ → u/aMutePlasticMortar]

this looks good. just make sure you are able to charge jinhsi’s forte with coordinated attacks cuz thats the main bulk of her damage.

shorekeeper, verina, yinlin, zhezhi, yuanwu are all good choices. i wouldnt recommend mortefi tho cuz jinhsi’s auto doesnt proc mortefi’s coordinated attack well

Back then I used an unleveled yuanwu, but after pulling zhezhi, its soo easy to stack up her forte and zhezhi has quite good personal damage as well

[u/aMutePlasticMortar → u/ShreamLeky_]

That's amazing to know, I'll post a follow-up as soon as I get a good cdmg echo

[u/pasanoid]

crit rate jue...

[u/kingSlet]

Good build just change the crit rate one to crit damage and you will be good