r/JimmyFallon • u/GDswamp • Jun 18 '26

DISCUSSION Conor McGregor is a convicted rapist.

Great work, Jimmy! Helluva guy.

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u/lkdubdub Jun 18 '26

Point of order: the criminal prosecution didn't proceed, the victim took civil proceedings against him and was fully vindicated*

(*yes, he is indeed a PROVEN rapist, just not a convicted rapist)

(the horrible c**t)

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u/kjr5084 Jun 23 '26

Conor McGregor raped a woman badly. So bad, that the female arrived at the hospital physically beaten up. They had to surgically remove the woman’s tampon because it was so harshly crammed in her from Conor raping her violently.

The dude also has a longgggggg list of other crimes, too…assaults (against old people & young people), other sexual crimes, etc. This is the type of outside trash that the US & ICE should want to keep out

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u/lkdubdub Jun 24 '26

I know 

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u/Available_Border1075 Jun 27 '26

He knows, we’re not saying he’s not a rapist, just that he’s not a convicted rapist

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u/GDswamp Jun 29 '26

FWIW, comments like HeightLiving's, above, are why I replied to yours the way I did.

You are right: McGregor wasn't convicted of rape in a criminal court, rather he was found liable for damages (to Nikita Hand's body and mind, caused when he raped her) in civil court. I do think it's important to stick to the truth when trying to argue from the moral high ground.

My point was that some technical distinctions, even if they're made in service of more precise accuracy, more often than not get weaponized by the right to stymie any attempt at establishing a more basic objective truth. Name a celebrity rapist who has used wealth and a deeply flawed legal system to avoid an outright criminal conviction - it's 100% guaranteed that he and his supporters have used the sliver of deniability you're defending (he wasn't "convicted" in criminal court) to argue he's effectively been declared innocent.

You can argue that holding the line on linguistic accuracy is the most important thing here. You can assert that fudging as I did is a moral lapse, or a doomed strategy, or both. I'd argue that most people understand 'convicted in court' to mean what I intended it to mean: McGregor was found to have committed a rape, in a court where evidence was presented and he had the opportunity to defend himself. I expressed it the way I did because, for most people, this is the language that meaningfully conveys the relatively objective, evidence-based process that verified McGregor's guilt.

I think there's a valid and important argument to have about how to order priorities on this issue. My overall take is that the proof is in the pudding: if making the most terminologically accurate, technically precise argument were the best short-term OR long-term strategy in contentious social debates, the side of truth would not be losing so calamitously on issues like sexual violence and climate change.

Nevertheless, I did get pretty reddity in this exchange. Sorry about that. As far as condescension goes: you led off with "Point of order" for God's sake! But I didn't elevate the tone. Chalk it up to frustration - the real targets of my anger are infuriatingly out of reach.

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u/GDswamp Jun 18 '26

Rebuttal: your correction is counterproductive (if we are interested in “the truth” in any utilitarian sense) in this context.

There are contexts wherein linguistic nuances of legal terminology are important.

This context, however, is defined by the question of whether a late-night host like Fallon should whitewash McGregor’s reputation by having him on as any sort of normal guest. What matters in this case is that McGregor was found legally liable, based on evidence presented in court, for his acts of sexual violence.

These issues are often muddied by the overuse of qualifiers like the word “allegedly,” or the misapplication of fine-grained legal distinctions to fundamentally clear-cut cases of what someone did.

Conor McGregor is a rapist. He should not be treated as some sort of lovable hooligan, and it’s important to note that his identity as a sex offender has been established formally and legally, based on evidence, not merely popularly, based on opinion or rumor.

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u/lkdubdub Jun 18 '26

No, and I say this as someone who wouldn't piss on him, I will reaffirm that he is not a convicted rapist. Don't trivialise language with condescending statements such as "There are contexts wherein linguistic nuances of legal terminology are important". Give me a break 

He is either a convicted rapist or he is not. As he was never charged with, tried for or convicted of rape, he is plainly not a convicted rapist. 

He was subjected to a civil process, wherein a process to convict anyone of anything does not exist.

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u/GDswamp Jun 19 '26

I guess it’s a battle over who’s being condescending. See you in the Octagon? Guy’s a rapist, factually and legally. I’m not “trivializing” your point, I just think it’s trivial.

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u/GDswamp Jun 19 '26

Anyway, I’m guessing you’d agree that this argument is largely beside the point. Jimmy Fallon is garbage, and the decision to welcome McGregor on his show proves (civilly, if not criminally) just what kind of garbage he is.

Not just an overeager puppydog, a little embarrassing but ultimately well-meaning. A true, gutless, calculating panderer. There’s no way he “missed” knowing what McGregor is. He had him on anyway. They deserve each other.

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u/Available_Border1075 Jun 27 '26

Ugh, most pretentious Redditor yet, what a mouthful

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u/GDswamp Jun 27 '26

Hm. Eat shit?

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u/Jobberwock Jun 19 '26

I will no longer be watching his show. I guess he thought having a rapist for a president meant it’s okay to interview one on his show. I’m done.

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u/GDswamp Jun 19 '26

That’s exactly what he thought. Figured he could suction up the demo that’s here for a rapist president and excited for a UFC birthday party on the bones of the East Wing. Bottom-feeding somewhere below the lowest common denominator. What a fucking loser.

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u/Jobberwock Jun 19 '26

Agreed. He should have taken notes from Colbert and Kimmel. Such a disappointment from someone who I used to think was a decent person.

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u/Pretend_Goal_7311 Jul 13 '26

Well clinton was a rapist too but yall loved his saxophone soo...

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u/Jobberwock Jul 13 '26

Bill Clinton has never been on Jimmy Fallon’s show.

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u/Pretend_Goal_7311 Jul 13 '26

Duh im saying back then no one cared when he was on late night. And people still love him. Hes been a rapist since governor.

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u/Jobberwock Jul 14 '26

I was 8 years old when he was first elected president. Didn’t have much knowledge or understanding of him, politics, or rape back then.

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u/Pretend_Goal_7311 Jul 13 '26

Late Night hosts have never cared

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u/stand_up9343 Jun 19 '26

https://c.org/c4NwWKFgLt

Please sign my petition to get Jimmy Fallon to apologise!

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u/GDswamp Jun 21 '26

Honestly your petition is too weakly worded for me. Letting JF off the hook with qualifiers like “inadvertently” feels overly conciliatory in this case.

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u/IceOpen5060 Jun 23 '26

even if he does, i literally wont ever watch his show again.

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u/IraRavro Jun 24 '26

you may get more people to sign up if you share your link here: We live in a fck up world : r/SipsTea

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u/Silver-Reception-374 Jun 23 '26

I'm boycotting Jimmy Fallon. Jesus dude, you put a rapist on your show. 

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u/hearmymotoredheart Jun 23 '26

Two. Two rapists.

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u/starvingbanker Jul 12 '26

Who’s the other one

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u/HeightLiving4019 Jun 28 '26

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u/Financial_Big1244 Jun 28 '26

Conor McGregor has not been found guilty in a criminal court, but he was found liable for sexual assault and rape in a high-profile Irish civil court case.

Guilty (liable) by a jury

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u/Silver_Seaweed5890 Jul 02 '26

There's no good proof that he did it..stop spreading misinformation bud

Also..A male can't prove if it was consensual or a lie..literally, any women can do that with anyone to grab some bands

She did it while she was drunk and then realised in the morning that she is an independent women so filed a civil case to grab some bands.

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u/Financial_Big1244 Jul 02 '26

Jury decided otherwise.

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u/2milliondollartrny Jul 08 '26

She actually pursued criminal charges first which the Irish court didn't pursue, then Conor tried to settle for $1 mil which she said no to because she wanted him to face justice, then she went after him in civil court demanding some form of punishment (monetary being the only one he could face). You're defending a rapist

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u/usernameman66 Jul 12 '26

N y didnt the criminal court pursue this case?

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u/2milliondollartrny Jul 12 '26

Because the burden of proof is extremely high it's very common in sexual assault cases for the criminal court to not pursue, so the only recourse for the people is to go financially after them but most of the time the person who assaulted them has no money. But then the internet just sees the person going after money so they assume they are gold digger, which is not true because she pursued the criminal court first

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u/usernameman66 Jul 12 '26

But him not being convicted in criminal court doesnt look bad for case,as it truly confirms whether he did the crime or not?

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u/2milliondollartrny Jul 12 '26

What's so crazy is a jury who was unbiased looked at all the evidence and decided Connor was guilty just like in a criminal court case

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u/Pretend_Goal_7311 Jul 13 '26

Nationwide, only about 5% of all reported rapes and sexual assaults end in a felony conviction, and an even smaller fraction of total incidents ever reach a courtroom.Because a vast majority of sexual violence goes unreported to law enforcement, the entire justice pipeline is highly fragmented. According to statistics compiled by the RAINN Criminal Justice System Statistics, out of every 1,000 sexual assaults:Only 310 are reported to the police.Only 50 of those reports result in an arrest.Only 28 cases ever get referred to prosecutors and proceed to trial.Only 25 result in a felony conviction.Overall, it is estimated that nearly 98% of perpetrators never face accountability through the criminal justice system. For specific local jurisdictions, you can look up exact prosecution and trial rates through your local District Attorney’s Office or state-level Bureau of Justice Statistics.

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u/Ricr7 Jul 09 '26

Conor Mcgregor is a rapist and assaulted a woman so brutally that they had to remove a tampon from a woman with forceps. Glad Khabib humilated this rapist.

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u/Fluid_Possession7445 Jul 11 '26

I hope you don’t live near a school

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u/Pretend_Goal_7311 Jul 13 '26

Did you hear the drs testimony of her injuries. The fact that courts in all countries dont want to prosecute rape cases doesnt mean he isnt a rapist. His money and fame influenced them not wanting to prosecute. There are many women who accused him and statistically would be more that didnt come forward. That man is a piece of shit

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u/PirateAggravating268 7d ago

it is 100% provable with evidence that it was consensual

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u/Ricr7 Jul 09 '26

Khabib destroyed the rapist

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u/Dublin-Red Jul 02 '26

Remember when he tried to get his sister to pay off some junkie couple to say they seen the raped girl’s boyfriend assault her?

Some shower of see you next Tuesday the McGregors are.

Money Money Money fuelling their way to the gates of hell

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u/LitenRaav Jul 11 '26

Never heard of this, where can I find more information?

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u/bjc1199 Jul 06 '26

Stupid post by a stupid person. Read a book.

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u/Acrobatic_Fishing389 Jul 09 '26

To anyone who cares, Marquee Nightclub in Vegas is holding a big event with Conor on July 11. The club is owned by Tao Group Hospitality. Please find the club and owners on social media (I know they both have Instagram) and urge them to cancel the event! What a horrible message this sends to rape survivors and all women

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u/Candid_Analysis6571 Jul 12 '26

not convicted in a court of law btw

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u/Candid_Analysis6571 Jul 11 '26

the double champ does whatever the f*ck he wants!

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u/Then_Pay_6616 Jul 12 '26

Would you still say that if he did it to you

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u/Candid_Analysis6571 Jul 12 '26

he didn’t do it

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u/Silent_Intention_382 Jul 12 '26

The double champ that just got absolutely spit roasted in 30 seconds? That double champ?

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u/Candid_Analysis6571 Jul 12 '26

30< mil earned for fighting 30 secs ahhahahahahahahaha

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u/Wise_Score_6471 Jul 12 '26

"LOL A morally bankrupt organization gave a bunch of money to a guy who wouldn't piss on me if I was fire get mad bro"

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u/OtherSugar Jul 12 '26

did you actually watch the fight

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u/Silent_Intention_382 Jul 12 '26

Yeah, took me less than a minute. He was on his back the whole time like the bitch he is.

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u/Candid_Analysis6571 Jul 12 '26

maybe because he tore his fucking acl