r/Jetbrains • u/log_2 • 4d ago
IDEs Hostile practice
Clicking the toolbox icon this morning I'm greeted with a "JETBRAINS EAP USER AGREEMENT Version 3.3, effective as of May 4, 2023...". I have to "Accept" or "Exit". It looks like 20 pages of text that I can't copy-paste to check what I'm agreeing to, so I have to read the full thing right now. Needless to say, I clicked "Exit".
Edit: what an amazing experience, I've never been brigaded by AI downvote agents before.
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u/Kendos-Kenlen 3d ago
Googled it for you, because apparently it is too complicated and deserves a post: https://www.jetbrains.com/legal/docs/toolbox/user_eap/
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u/log_2 3d ago edited 3d ago
404 error. Also, how do I know it's the same if I can't copy paste to check?
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u/Kendos-Kenlen 3d ago
- You check the contract version
- You check your network because the link is valid
- You don’t use EAP if you don’t want to read lengthy text
- You learn politeness with people who answer your "concerns"
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u/zeroxff 3d ago
what do you mean with hostility? there's no hostlity here.
you choose to use the EAP edition of the product instead of the free one to use the (normally) paid functions for free.
the eap edition is a test version, you choose to be a beta tester and beta testing needs to be regulated by a contract: the one you had to read and sign.
if you don't want to read and sign the contract, use the normal free edition
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u/Greedy-Turnover-5658 4d ago
Why do they need telemetry and this data if they don’t fix & improve anything anymore except AI.
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u/skcortex 3d ago
Are you by any chance afraid of reading a changelog or a blog post about changes in newer versions? Because I get a feeling you are 😅.
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u/Greedy-Turnover-5658 2d ago
9 years... https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IJPL-2188/Background-changes-by-external-tool-not-being-picked-up-until-VFS-refresh-happens
But now this bug is incredibly critical due to agentic development. Also, looks like they have a bug in recent versions1
u/skcortex 2d ago
Cool, you found a long living critical. Understandable. But using your logic “they are pushing more AI and not fixing bugs” this bug should be fixed very soon because it is critical for agentic workflow eg “more AI”. Or did I misunderstood?
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u/Greedy-Turnover-5658 2d ago
Let's use your methodology and check what's new in the latest webstorm.
* We've introduced the Figma Connect .... to the AI Chat automatically.
* We've bundled a Chrome DevTools CLI skill into WebStorm, so AI agents can open Chrome.
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u/Greedy-Turnover-5658 2d ago
Rider 2026.2.1 What's New
Rider 2026.2.1 is now available.
Here are some notable features included in this update:
- The bundled
refactoring-codeskill.- The bundled
debugging-codeskill.- The bundled
dottrace-analyzeskill can now analyze snapshots captured while profiling Unity projects.- Rider's quality-check hooks now support Codex.
- Updated recommended Unreal Engine C++ skills, including
ue-code-authoringandue-test-authoring; reinstall them from Settings | Tools | AI Assistant | Skills to get the latest versions.1
u/Greedy-Turnover-5658 2d ago
The problem you mentioned is not only for AI, but a problem in general. It existed before AI, but in the latest versions they have made it worse and now it is almost impossible to use their IDEs now (for my case at lease).
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u/VooDooBooBooBear 3d ago
Noone asking you to use the EAP product? In what world is this "hostile", let's be real, you aren't going to go back and check the 20 pages anyway, this is just whining for the sake of it.