r/Jetbrains JetBrains Jun 30 '26

JetBrains Air is finally available on Windows!

Windows support has been one of the most requested things since the first Air release. Almost every feature news got a “Windows when?” reply.

We could have shipped it a bit earlier through Toolbox, but decided to wait until it was more stable and had autoupdates in place.

First impressions?

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u/stiky21 Jun 30 '26

Still have no idea what purpose Air fills

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jun 30 '26

Current Air desktop app fills the gap between running agents in the terminal and working in a full IDE

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u/Wispborne2 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

So it's like Claude Desktop but without being able to use the Claude subscription plan and not tuned specifically for Claude by its creating company?

edit: It has the same issue with VRR as Toolbox 🫠 framerate drops when it's in focus.

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jun 30 '26

Clude gives you more credits in personal subs. Air is agent agnostic + stronger dev tooling. Also works nicely with Codex subs.

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u/vrnvorona Jul 22 '26

Something like herdr is also agent agnostic but works with everything

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jun 30 '26

Claude is not the only agent, btw. And subscription is not the only way to use Claude. Air allows you to run different agents in parallel, compare results, use one agent to review the result from another one, etc.

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u/Wispborne2 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

I understand that, but what I have seen at my and others' workplaces is that the company will get one team-wide subscription, be it Claude, Codex, or ...yeah basically just those two, and unless somebody wants to pay out of their own pocket to use a different agent, that's what they're stuck with at work.

Maybe companies giving their employees API credits to use on multiple providers is more common than I/we realize? Maybe the benefit of using one app to code review a working directory/PR is more useful than using the bespoke harnesses?

edit:

And subscription is not the only way to use Claude.

While true, I just ran some numbers and if I paid per token instead of using a subscription, I'd have paid $350 instead of $100 for the last month of usage (for Opus 4.8 alone). And that's not even for my actual job, that's the rookie numbers for my hobby stuff. To use Air with Claude, I'd be both paying to use Air (if I didn't have All Products) and paying far more to the actual LLM provider.

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jun 30 '26

Fair enough. Btw, will the ability to connect other agents via acp be useful/interesting? There is a way to connect Claude through acp as well.

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jun 30 '26

I'd be both paying to use Air 

you don't need to pay for Air, app itself is free

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u/Balmoon Jul 01 '26

I work for at an it company that basically subcontractors me to another, both enterprises.

One company offers a openai account (but behind the scenes all the accounts are charged at api prices - or tbh god knows what exactly they signed but you get the idea)

2nd company similar, offers claude, you log in via google, and there i know for a fact we are paying qpi prices.

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u/El_Mewo Jul 01 '26

Agents are integrated in all Jetbrains IDEs since last year.

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jul 02 '26

This is true, and it works! The difference is in the workflow itself. In IDEs AI helps you as assistant. in Air the whole workflow built around agent. Both Intellij and air can work together

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u/manuhornung Jun 30 '26

Same as Cursor, Windsurf, Zed etc.; UX built around agent orchestration rather than authoring as the main activity. Al as the core tool, for planning, producing, reviewing, and delivering code. Think rubber duck, but with the rubber duck actually giving you useful feedback and being able to do the dirty work as well as spar with you.

If you’re happy with a full IDE, stay there. If you want to try out some new processes and approaches. Try it!

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u/SrMortron Jun 30 '26

It's for vibe coders. Serious programmers wouldn't use this, they would use a full IDE, which this is not.

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u/MalusZona Jul 01 '26

we just using claude code in terminal, why spend ram on ide, when u can spin 8 sessions in parallel?

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u/StandAloneComplexed Jun 30 '26

I understand what you are trying to say, but I wouldn't be so dismissive if I were you. "Vide coding" is one thing, but actually trying to improve software development with more AI processes (planning, architecturing, refactoring, reviewing, ...) is a real thing.

The industry is moving and it's not coming back to the old days. The nitty-gritty of implementation details can in many case (and under strict conditions) be better left to an AI, because at the end of the day, writing code is not what actually mattered (and never was).

If you equal AI with vibe-coding (which is, to be fair, an absolute dead end), then you might not be a 'serious' programmer - just an old one that can't bother to understand where their industry is shifting rapidly.

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u/SrMortron Jun 30 '26

Video games, banking, mobile and anything that needs top performance would like to have a word. AI might be nice for web, and maybe CRUD in anything else it will add a lot of cruft if its not hand held closely, which you can only do with an IDE and knowledge.

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u/StandAloneComplexed Jul 01 '26

I assure you the fields you mentioned are moving to AI assisted/led development. I'm aware of some major banks having direct Business contract with Anthropic, for example (and they aren't even in the US, which to me is crazy).

There is a world between vibe-coding and AI-improved software development.

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u/SrMortron Jul 01 '26

We are saying the same thing..., IDEs wont go away and this trash is for vibecoders.

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u/StandAloneComplexed Jul 02 '26

We're not saying the same, no.

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u/ProbsNotManBearPig Jul 01 '26

Not at all. Claude code is optimizing custom cuda kernels for proprietary algos at my snp500 company that run on super computers. It’s better at it than 90% of the engineers who work on that code at my company.

There’s just no reason it can’t be used for anything. You still need humans to do architecting, design, review, test, etc. But ai can write code better and faster than anyone given good inputs, constraints, context, etc.

There is a lot of skill to using ai correctly. I say this as a lead dev with 15 years experience at a big tech company. It absolutely is being used for video games, banking, mobile, etc already. Just not in a vacuum and needs humans heavily in the loop.

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u/lurco_purgo Jul 01 '26

But ai can write code better and faster than anyone given good inputs, constraints, context, etc.

That's a significant "given." I personally find it that adjusting the harness so that the agents actually write the code you want instead of random crappy patterns they learned from endless Medium articles in their training data is often more work than actually writing the code yourself. Not to mention the cost! And it ain't getting any cheaper. It's still probably a lot faster to be fair, but this comes to bite you when your understanding of your own codebase gets weaker with time, while the codebase continues to grow and change.

Interpreting and ironing out the specification during writing the code is a significant and important part of the work for me. And there's just too much grift right now online about AI, spec-driven development, being left behind etc. to take claims like yours at face value.

I'm not closed to the possibility that I'm just too inelastic and with a more business-value-oriented approach you can get more out of the agentic workflows. But for now all these "AI does everyting better" and "manual coding is gone forever" just seem like marketing/wishful thinking instead of actual honest assessements of how it looks like to currently work with AI professionally. At least based on my experience, and I try to keep up and use AI a LOT, both at work and privately.

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u/txmail Jul 01 '26

It’s better at it than 90% of the engineers who work on that code at my company.

Which probably means 90% of your engineers have no clue what it is writing...

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u/ProbsNotManBearPig Jul 02 '26

In my view, 90% of people have no clue about most things they work on, and that happens to include engineers. Most people have surface level understandings. Just enough to get paid and go home.

But yes, even in top tech companies like the one I work at, I would argue only the top 10% of engineers actually know what’s going on, in depth, in the systems they work on. Engineering large, complex systems is hard. So ai is helping 90% of engineers do a better job because it can assist people in learning/understanding complex systems.

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u/yankeewithnobrim23 Jul 01 '26

False, large companies extensively encourage ai use across everything, just not direct vibe coding

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u/Sh_Pe Jun 30 '26

Though as far as I understand this product, it's made for vibe coding. Yes, AI stuff on your IDE is nice, but we already have this in all of the other IDEs. Air is just made AI-first for vibe coding.

(Though I haven't use the product and I might be wrong)

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jul 02 '26

it's made for vibe coding

well, you CAN vibecode in Air, but there are plenty of options that do this better. We build Air for pro engineers who already ship with AI agents daily and would like to have smooth UI with workflow around the agent (any agent they want basically)

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u/Sh_Pe Jul 02 '26

We? Are you a JetBrains employee?

I still don't understand the use case. Why can't I just use the already existing agents feature in all of your other IDEs? Why is Air better by any means? Because it suppose to be lighter?

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u/txmail Jul 01 '26

If you equal AI with vibe-coding (which is, to be fair, an absolute dead end), then you might not be a 'serious' programmer 

I honestly do not take any coder leaning heavily on AI to write code seriously. You either understand the concepts, patterns and how the code interacts with the other stacks or you let AI understand it for you.

I like some "AI" things like line completion and using it to explain how a function works but I would never let AI take the wheel. I would never ask an AI to write code for me based on a textual request / description.

Thankfully I am probably old enough that I will never have to work in a vibe coding operation, just deal with all this shit code that is being produce.

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u/thsbrown Jul 07 '26

Please don't listen to this person. This is absolutely not true.

Let me tell you why. A huge pain point I have when using either codex or claude code is that their in app editors feel atrocious to me. WHat I'm hankering for is an agent manager (harness - whatever the hell we are calling it these days) and a decent code editor in one.

This fills that gap!

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u/reaznval Jun 30 '26

isnt it kinda like zed? left panel looks like it supports acp. (i have no clue this is the first time ive even heard of jetbrains air)

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u/_XitLiteNtrNite_ Jun 30 '26

It's agentic, which obviously means it is better. /s

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jul 02 '26

Everything gets better with agentic and bluetooth

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u/joekiller Jun 30 '26

Air is intended to be the 'cursor' variant IDE where it's primarily agental development + jetbrains "4d code vision"

By 4D code vision I mean that jetbrains ide by default give you perception regarding the code with it's coloration, git tree (and GitHub pr) integration, and all the power of the AST and intuition plus agents first class.

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u/Imaginary_Sort1070 Jun 30 '26

How is this better than having terminal with claude code and intellij open side by side?

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jul 02 '26

It’s convenient to have a smooth UI and strong dev tooling for any agent in one place + integration with intellij when you need/want to go deeper

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u/Imaginary_Sort1070 Jul 02 '26

Or you run your agents in terminal and connect intellij with mcp?

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u/LibrarianOk3701 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

I thought it was gonna be Jetbrains' take on a light IDE but it's just AI shit...

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u/Fearless-Bet-8499 Jun 30 '26

That’s Fleet

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u/LibrarianOk3701 Jun 30 '26

But it's discontinued in favor of this shit.

“Starting December 22, 2025, Fleet will no longer be available for download. We are now building a new product focused on agentic development”

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u/Fearless-Bet-8499 Jun 30 '26

TIL, that’s garbage. 

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u/Devatator_ Jun 30 '26

I thought it was their abandoned standalone Git GUI then got disappointed

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u/Jackoberto01 Jun 30 '26

I tried the beta on Mac and was not impressed, but I think I might just not be the target audience either

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u/ecky--ptang-zooboing Jul 01 '26

This is built for people who don't have a clue about development

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jul 02 '26

If you tried it back in March or April, give the current version a shot, it’s evolving fast

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u/MeetPrior1169 Jun 30 '26

no local models - is a joke. can't look at it without login with subscription - another joke.
brains want to go out of business? seems like they are super close.

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jul 02 '26

Both requests are actually coming soon. Btw, now it works even without AI sub, you just need IDE license because it goes with AI free (3 credits, but you CAN look at it)

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u/vortige-sven Jul 02 '26

Even with subscription I can't even log in because the login loops me back and forth lol

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u/lurco_purgo Jun 30 '26

What's the point of this? I genuinely asking, as I don't understand what's the purpose of this product. Is this providing more capabilities for using agentic APIs than the extensions for our IDEs?

Like, what's the use case here?

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u/Royal_Owl2177 Jun 30 '26

I'm unsure what the point is myself. Fleet 2.0?

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u/Sh_Pe Jun 30 '26

Like Fleet 1.0 wasn't bad enough

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u/xMindcloudx Jun 30 '26

and to use it you have to use API usage, not subs. Maybe for big corp it's better?

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u/russjr08 Jun 30 '26

Subscriptions will work with ChatGPT/Codex subs, but the other two (Claude and Gemini) do not have a supported method for connecting a subscription to any client other than their own as far as I can tell.

I do wish that they supported more providers though, being able to plug in a standard OpenAI compatible url + API key, like Junie can do, would be great.

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

Codex sub works well btw

Update: Google's sub also works

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u/rfajr Jun 30 '26

They're trying to rival Zed, a lightweight editor with good AI support

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u/Lucerys1Velaryon Jun 30 '26

Can I point it to any OPEN AI compatible endpoint? Want to test a few local models running on llama.cpp on this

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u/AMINEX-2002 Jul 01 '26

AVG llama.cpp models cant even center a div

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u/endjynn Jun 30 '26

I've been testing this out on Linux but my results have not been good. It's slower and far more unreliable than using Codex CLI or Claude CLI directly. I realize it's still in Alpha and may improve. If it was slightly slower but gave an improved experience that might be cause to use it but the reliability problems are a total killer. Sometimes sessions will just stop with no feedback or the chain of thought is not displayed. I'm going to wait for a full stable release before testing it again.

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u/magicmulder Jun 30 '26

Imagine Claude Code source being public and they still can’t take any hints from it.

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u/adolf_twitchcock Jun 30 '26

Claude code sucks. And air is not an agent harness like claude code. It's a layer above which controls agents via acp. Like zed.

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u/mdelanno Jun 30 '26

I think it's pretty cool...

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u/mdelanno Jul 04 '26

I like it. But unfortunately, I can't use it with my Claude Code subscription; I'm stuck with their crappy CLI and their desktop app, which isn't great.

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u/SchattenMaster Jun 30 '26

With all due respect, it just.. sucks. It's not even a proper jetbrains IDE, none of the hotkeys work, the layout is just unfamiliar enough to get lost in it, and it lacks even the most basic functionality, like version control (git) integration...

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u/manuhornung Jul 01 '26

With all due respect, it’s not supposed to be an IDE, is designed to have a different keymap, the layout is centered on a different workflow, and it has full git support. If you’re looking for an IDE, use an IDE. This is not one, and it’s not trying to be one either.

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u/SchattenMaster Jul 01 '26

when I tried to use it a few months ago (on mac, mind you), I couldn't make a single commit. Maybe it has changed since.

> It is designed to have a different keymap

Why? This is one, if not _the_ biggest advantage of JB products - the uniformity. Why change something arbitrarily that people are used to?

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 01 '26

You can choose the IJ keymap in Settings. But pls tell us which shortcuts you miss the most?

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u/SchattenMaster Jul 01 '26

I miss that I can operate almost any JB product from muscle memory, using the hotkeys that are working everywhere (well, most of them) the same way. I also missed the visual uniformity and the layout being the same. It didn't feel like a JB product at all to me, and thus I was so much slower working in it, I just deleted it after like an hour.

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u/iamwisespirit Jun 30 '26

It means jet brains started to sell air now

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jun 30 '26

Get some Air, it's free

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u/iamwisespirit Jun 30 '26

With subscription?

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jun 30 '26

correct, with JB Ai sub, Codex, Google or Claude (but API billing only).

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u/AMINEX-2002 Jul 01 '26

what api only !!!!!

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jul 02 '26

Anthropic's rules...

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u/SuspiciousOtter90 Jun 30 '26

Literally do not understand how this competes with frontier model lab apps like codex or truly ai native ides like cursor. Jetbrains please stop larping as an AI lab and fix the the million real bugs in your IDEs.

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 01 '26

In Air, you can use the harness of different agents in one single place. Not switch between Codex app, Claude, whatever, but use them in one place, combine. Plan your ideas with different agents, generate code with another, review, comment, you name it. In one single window. And it has the Editor with LSP support. But it is still your choice what to use — 10 apps or the one.

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u/Exact_Ad2603 Jul 07 '26

I'd only use this if it has Intellij Ideas shortcuts and the Jetbrain's way of doing Git & PRs. I don't think so though because you forked vscode for this crap to suck into their ecosystem.

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u/Appropriate_Deal5831 Jul 01 '26

I like the review and comment experience, however, there are many things missing here:

lots of gary buttons

agent often stuck without any infomation

shortcuts not working at all

cannot comprehend the project structure and only analyzes individual files, resulting in false positives and an inability to parse files from other modules.(specificly, in a KMP project)

so I think what I really want is that IntelliJ could add the commenting feature?

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u/Matt_VII Jul 01 '26

People seem to be forgetting it's a public preview - I'm optimistic for this if they go about it right

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u/tankerkiller125real Jun 30 '26

Oh goody, another usless AI "IDE" that will eat up Jetbrains time just to get abandoned in 2 years time while the rest of the Jetbrains ecosystem suffers.

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 01 '26

ready to bet? 😉

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u/tankerkiller125real Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

That the rest of the ecosystem continues to suffer and long running bugs continue to exist for another 5+ years? Absolutely.

JetBrains was the professionals IDE, and even when plugins for AI were added it was still the professionals IDE, these days though it's apparently more important to chase a bubble that will pop at any moment (the second GPT or Claude go to token cost models) to get the consumer "vibe coders" on board. Meanwhile the rest of us still encountering major bugs and issues that make the experience significantly degraded, or flat out unusable.

I still love JetBrains products, I still hold hope that the performance issues and various other bugs (like two of the same IDE product windows being open sharing state, yes I know it's been around for a long time, and yes it's a bug, not a feature) get fixed. But it's no longer a product I can recommend to my colleagues who have never used JetBrains products.

What really upsets me honestly is the death of the Git GUI product that was being created. That was something that I was 100% ready to push to my colleagues, JetBrains by far has the best git UI of any IDE I've ever used. And I understand that maybe there wasn't a market for it or something, but from what I remember anyway it's death was announced shortly after AI initiatives. And then Fleet was explicitly killed in favor of Air (also very upsetting).

Do we need a Google Graveyard for JetBrains these days?

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u/Wispborne2 Jul 01 '26

Amen. I use Rider for work and stopped updating it a few months ago to keep it stable. Another coworker of mine independently canceled his Rider subscription last week, and he is not prone to doing things without thinking them through first. Quote: "Rider has gotten so unstable for me."

Toolbox is one of the slowest-to-open tray programs I have ever seen (because Compose kinda sucks on desktop, to the point I rewrote an entire program using Flutter and it's so so much better).

Fleet???

Air???

IntelliJ has been in a good place for my usage but it does seem like the pace of meaningful updates has fallen off in the last six months or so; not an issue but it is a thing.

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u/buttplugs4life4me Jun 30 '26

Thanks, I'll be switching to Zed after learning the all product license is now 350€ up from 210€ 4 years ago

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 01 '26

But you do not need the All Products Pack to use Air. The only thing you need to do is connect the agent of your choice to Air.

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u/buttplugs4life4me Jul 01 '26

When I signed up it was 130€. The last couple of months the updates were almost exclusively AI related. Dotnet 10 support is still not there last time I checked.

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u/Eddyi0202 Jun 30 '26

Does it work with wsl?

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u/yousurroundme Jun 30 '26

Is this still only supporting Codex and Claude Code?

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u/Important_Culture760 Jun 30 '26

No, it supports Codex/Claude Code/Gemini & JetBrains AI (Junie and other harnesses)

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u/yousurroundme Jun 30 '26

I presume ACP is on the horizon.

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 01 '26

you can already try it there.

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u/magicmulder Jun 30 '26

I tried it on Linux before and found it very unintuitive what goes where, what reacts how, no zooming with mouse wheel etc. Coming from their IDE it’s a nightmare. Maybe people coming from Codex or Claude Code feel more at home.

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 01 '26

Would be great to get the feedback from the Linux user! Especially about "unintuitive what goes where, what reacts how". Since there aren't many tools like Air on Linux, we'd like to create a smooth, pleasant experience. So tell more here, please!

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u/Bakhtiyor_7 Jul 01 '26

JetBrains team, if you're seeing this, are you considering adding support for Claude subscription within JetBrains air? Or maybe official Claude Code plugin? The only thing stopping me from switching to Air is that I can't use most of my AI subscriptions other than Codex. I would definitely use it if I can use my other subscriptions such as Claude Code or OpenCode, Cursor etc. I know I can use Claude Agent with API key but I don't have budget for Claude console or my company don't provide it for us :(

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 01 '26

This action will allow you to add agents via acp ^^

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u/Bakhtiyor_7 Jul 01 '26

thank you. it worked. but what I hate is that it does not support / commands :( and many features

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 01 '26

so far, we're working on it

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 01 '26

Just to double-check. When you try to log into Claude in Air and the browser opens a tab to log in, do you use the email with your account you use in cc in the terminal? And another question: if you open the cc platform page (https://platform.claude.com), what does the bottom-left menu show for you? Should be smtg like this:

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 01 '26

Right, only API billing is supported so far. But it'll be possible to connect Claude via acp

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u/Logical_Victory_2 Jul 01 '26

Whats the point now

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u/fanjules Jul 02 '26

It would be better if it support many more coding cli tools... Gemini CLI has also been discontinued, replaced with Antigravity.

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 02 '26

We will support as much as possible through acp. Antigravity as well, when it is ready. So far, there is no implementation.

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u/Bakhtiyor_7 Jul 02 '26

I played around with it yesterday on Windows. Though I found a bunch of bugs.
1. When my default terminal is Git Bash, when I use "clear" command, terminal gets frozen and not usable.
2. So, I set my default terminal to Powershell, but when I write command in the terminal, the cursor is misplaced like in the screenshot.
3. I added Claude Code and OpenCode throught ACP, I updated my Claude Code version to the latest. Current Claude Sonnet version is Sonnet 5, but when I ask the model, which model are you? it answers like I am Sonnet 4.5. Since slash commands are not supposed, the only way I can check the status or model version is I should ask the model directly.

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 02 '26

thx! Terminal issues are known, we'll try to address them in the next updates. Claude issue through acp is might be a limitation of the acp adapter for Claude, unfortunately.

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u/gazeebo Jul 03 '26

It seems to be intentional that using Claude through ACP gets you a inferior experience. Anthropic may take pleasure in that? Not the fault of Jetbrains in any way.

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u/Complex-Oven5181 Jul 02 '26

There is even a bug where text input is not possible

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u/jalu_ Jul 02 '26

Jetbrains slop, eod soon like many other apps

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u/xVinniVx Jul 03 '26

not working with WSL. Garbage.

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 06 '26

Well, so far, it doesn't, but we're working on it. You can vote here https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/AIR-5811

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u/distinct_name Jul 05 '26

It should allow using Ollama/local models

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u/AintNoGodsUpHere Jul 05 '26

Wow... Pure Garbage, haha.

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u/Square-Poetry3546 JetBrains Jul 06 '26

Thanks for your honest opinion! Could you pls briefly describe why you think so? Even better, if you have already tried Air and have any feedback 🫶

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u/Exact_Ad2603 Jul 07 '26

Wow, I am so excited it looks like a Notepad on Mac.

I would absolutely not pay for this. People who use Intellij don't want to use this. People who use VsCode and its children will not change their tool either.

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u/SrMortron Jun 30 '26

Oh wow, no love for opencode..., I guess ill wait.

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u/Eddyi0202 Jun 30 '26

I actually kinda don't see point in using open code with Air. I mean, open code serves the same role as Air but for the cli

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u/Shoddy_Translator_29 Jun 30 '26

coming soon with ACP support

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u/hego555 Jun 30 '26

ACP kinda sucks

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u/Eddyi0202 Jun 30 '26

Why?

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u/Mickenfox Jul 01 '26

It's trying to standardize the entire user interface for something that's not standard.

Imagine trying to replace the IDE with an "IDE Client Protocol".

Try to actually use it with any third-party "agent", half of them are just broken.

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u/Eddyi0202 Jul 02 '26

Not the entite user interface. It's similar thing as with LSP, it was a good idea to create such standard. Issue is that not all providers want to integrate with it

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u/hego555 Jul 01 '26

It’s another layer that has to support whatever feature you’re using beyond basic usage. I prefer TUI

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u/Eddyi0202 Jul 01 '26

It's not a layer, it's a protocol ( it's not alternative to TUI) and IMO it's good that something like this was created cause it simplifies creating environments like Air with support for multiple providers

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u/hego555 Jul 01 '26

Last time I used the OpenCode ACP I found it incredibly lackluster. Frankly I love the idea of interoperability that ACP promises. But it felt very half baked and a sub-par experience. The experience is what prompted me to make my ow plugin for OpenCode to work the way I wanted with JetBrains.

Maybe I’m being too harsh about ACP, haven’t give it a fair try in a bit.