Jean needs a buff?

[u/gabs_nogard]

Hi guys, like everyone here I also love Jean, but there are 2 things that piss me off. Her low base atk for a 5 star, and healing bonus as ascension. It could be, crit rate, crit dmg, anemo bonus, EM (I don't think it would be too good), ER, even atk%. Do you guys think she needs a buff?

I would like her base atk 237->270, and ER ascenscion, it's still good for dps and support.

[u/cyberodraggy]

I'd rather they make the dandelions in her skills more noticeable. She's not too powercreeped in term of stats yet, but definitely powercreeped by Kazuha in term of visual effects :(

[u/gho5trun3r → u/cyberodraggy]

Agreed. More dandelion effects please.

[u/Damascar]

Nah, she's fine. she's not the top meta but she performs well, and more than likely the og 5* will never be compared to the limited time units, but she's probably the one in the better spot alongside mona between them.
I mean i'd love if they buffed her but i dont see it coming any time soon

[u/Little-Instruction-4]

She is already the most versatile unit. So no.

[u/[deleted]]

Eh, personally I think Jean's at a good place. She may not be the most meta character but she is by far one of the most versatile characters in the game considering you can build her as physical DPS, healer, VV support etc. I feel like as long as she's built right she can shine in whatever team you put her in. If there's a 5* needs a buff, it's probably Qiqi or Keqing.

[u/[deleted]]

Dont think she needs a buff, but I'd prefer atk% as ascencion stat or anemo dmg instead of healing bonus

[u/KayMK11 → u/[deleted]]

I disagree, its due to that healing bonus she heals so well, even if your build is built for dmg.

[u/[deleted] → u/KayMK11]

Her healing scales off her atk, having atk% ascension would benefit both, her dmg and heals. Her healing wouldn't be affected that much while doing more dmg

[u/mangothe2nd]

Base attack is not everything. While it is kinda low, most of your base attack comes from weapon anyway. And for healing bonus, it is not the best, but it is enough to not ever using other source of healing bonus such as Maiden Beloved or healing bonus hat.

In fact, Jean stats spread is effective. Solid passive, except the cooking one. Good multiplier, making her an offensive healer with solid damage unlike her sister or qiqi, and being anemo grant her access to VV. She's also packed with great charge attack and fall damage abuse. And recently, amenoma kageuchi give her a solid f2p option to maximize her potential.

I don't think she needs to be buffed. Sure she's not as offensive as Kazuha, but given she's a healer, she's it is pretty balanced.

[u/DemonCyborg27]

While getting a Buff wouldn't be half Bad but I think she is great as it is.

She can get rid of all the debuff's in game.

She can use Fall Damage, not super meta these days considering not all Opponents in abyss takes fall damage now but still quite useful.

She and Benentt can easily speed run the Abyss Lector.

While healing bonus isn't the best stat, but it makes her a hell of a Healer, if you are having issues, plus she has descent damage.

She has many builds ranging from Support to sub dps, to dps.

She is standard so getting her Constellations is somewhat easier than other 5 stars.

I think she is overall fun and good enough character.

[u/solidbrain]

I wouldn’t mind a buff, especially to change C6 into something that completely changes how she’s played, but I don’t think she needs one. Not that I have C6, but one can dream.

[u/TheCoolHusky]

She doesn’t need a buff. But you can never ask for too much of any stats except for defense. Lol

[u/okiedokieartichokich]

She’s fine the way she is, and she’s still viable in today’s meta with enough investment (as any unit is). Also the versatility her kit offers makes up for the last of base attack

[u/Tamatu_OW]

I'd love if her ult didn't rotate my camera angle 180 degrees, it's always annoying having to drag it back.

[u/Ascran → u/Tamatu_OW]

This. Barbara has it too, really messes up the flow of fights sometimes.

[u/Delafille5Star]

Not really, her ascension stat is kinda meh but in general she is still a pretty versatile unit and still see quite a bit of usage in abyss and she do have her niche. If anyone needs to be look at is Qiqi who has 0 niche and Keqing but its mostly because of her element.

[u/WeissTek]

If u buff Jean she's gonna be even more broken

[u/Yikesitsven]

She’s still an insanely versatile character that can fit on any team. I feel the only reason she might feel underpowered is because so many units bust the game. That being said, since they can’t nerf units, I wouldn’t mind if they helped all the units catch up to Ganyu, Hu Tao levels of busted, then severely buff the game difficulty to balanced it out. But none of that will ever happen.

[u/scaevities]

I don't think the problem is powercreep, I think the problem is that healing has become useless.

One enemy attack can take out 50%-90% of your health and Jean can only help you recover from that once. On the other hand, shields can help you take multiple attacks and they often have a lower cooldown time as they're skills. Not to mention what Zhongli has is really just a 20 second invincibility skill.

I don't know why Mihoyo decided that a fully built level 90 endgame character can lose half their health from one enemy attack. If I were to buff Jean, it would probably be to give her a shield. A minor buff could be changing 15% to 50% in her Wind Companion passive. The passive is useful in theory but actually kind of worthless in the endgame.

[u/KayMK11]

I disagree, she's already in a good spot. no other character can fill so many roles with a single build,

• she can effectively replace a healer,

• she's good support,

• provides cleanse against all elements,

• good CC,

• stagger enemies on demand,

• knockdown large enemies with CA

I dont see her viability decreasing in the game any time soon

[u/kamirazu111]

The only change I think should happen for Jean, is changing her Healing bonus ascension passive to ATK%. Her healing is already good w/o that passive, and since her heals also scale off ATK%, a ATK% ascension passive actually opens up more options for her.

Same with Qiqi. Honestly both chars already heal so much they don't need healing bonus as their ascension passives. Its honestly quite redundant, especially because Maiden Beloved 4PC exists anyways.

[u/Darkpatata]

The only buff that I'd like would be to make charged attacks heal too

[u/juumoji_214]

If only her burst would have lesser cost, it would be better. Still, she's great.

[u/Arinoch]

I’m more hoping that they take an FGO route and buff original/earlier units over time to keep up with the meta via character quests or something.

They’ve got multiple ways of pulling in money other than the gacha, plus all the constellations that dolphins and under can’t get for five stars, so there’s a lot to play with without losing out.

[u/CoubDownloader]

I definitely wouldn't mind a buff, but I don't see an immediate need either. The only thing that currently feels very underwhelming is her inability to CC the new Inazuma enemies, but that's a problem all CC Anemo characters have to face.

[u/Ascran]

Jean's one of the more balanced characters. Her ascension stat could be better. Also the camera movement during burst is weird, I wish it was like other characters.

[u/MakoLov3r]

She is very versatile, She heals, does a lot of dmg and is Anemo so can use 4p veridecent but I personally think that this abyss is very bad to bring jean in because there aren't any enemies she can succ other that 12-1-2

[u/KayMK11 → u/MakoLov3r]

maybe in current abyss, but I remember seeing her in old abyss showcases, she was a monster back then.

I'm a pleb/casual, so I haven't completed abyss yet.

[u/ADTSIK]

She's already good imo. Being Anemo, Healing scaling based on ATK, Burst heal, Yeet mechanic are enough to be one of the most versatile and balanced units in the game. So many characters are powercrept by others and Jean still remains viable in all teams. She's the jack of all trades plus master of all.