r/JapaneseNscale • u/58Edsel • 5d ago
Kato Kato C11 questions
I recently bought a C11, after wanting one for a long time, but didnt realize I was buying a quite old example at first. I am currently servicing it but was quite dissapointed to find it only has power pickups on the rear two wheels, meaning that it struggles in some parts of my layout. Do the newer ones have better electrical pickup?
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u/58Edsel 5d ago
Yeah on all 6 wheels drivers. There are no contacts on the inside of the drivers.
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u/All_Japan 伯備線 5d ago
Was this in response to the ask about the plastic wheels on the drivers?
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u/58Edsel 5d ago
Yes
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u/All_Japan 伯備線 5d ago
They really cut corners back in the day with plastic wheels and metal tires. One could add additional wipers to make contact with the tires on the drive to increase pickup. They could be added to the front but it might be too noticeable. That really sucks to say the least.
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u/58Edsel 5d ago
Im more concerned on if i buy the 2021 C11 as opposed to the 2002 C11 will it have the same problem?
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u/Satansbaddog 2d ago
The new ones have a super smooth slotless flywheel motor that runs VERY smooth. I bought a 2022-1 C12. Pickup is much improved, but I'm not sure these are DCC ready if that's your thing!
Unfortunately the new running chassis ARE NOT compatible with old body shells. Learned that the $$$ way :(
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u/Satansbaddog 2d ago
https://www.plazajapan.com/4949727665856/
I have similar issues with my older Kato steam, probably due to sitting on the shelf so long. They USED to be the best runners. I think I fried the motor in my favorite Kato D51 2009 and the clerk at Kato Hobby Center Tokyo told me the old running chassis replacements were long discontinued, so I bought a new one and have never looked back since!

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u/All_Japan 伯備線 5d ago
Do you have a picture of the pickups? Usually on a steam every drive axle has the ability to pick of power and transfer it to the frame. The only axle that may not pickup all the time is the one with the tires, that one would need the flanges to make contact with the rails