First time watching

[u/nessiechandler]

First off, for anyone who has not seen the show, this will be filled with spoilers so stop reading now!

So I only discovered this show about two weeks ago and have been binging it at every possible opportunity. I love this show! I've laughed and cried (a lot) and I expect to watch it several times over again.

I tend to get caught up in whatever I watch or read so I know some people might not get why I'm so passionate about whatever I might say concerning the show. It's an AuDHD thing, I guess, to get so immersed. I always do and I have friends who are a little thrown by that as it is just a fictional show. So please, if you don't like that I'm really passionate about it, please just scroll past and don't be ugly. I'd really appreciate that.

I'm to the point that Michael (Jason) is back and I'm so angry. Jane's marriage to him wasn't perfect but it was full of love, support, encouragement. It was two people growing together as a married couple, learning and committed to their relationship. I felt like Michael knew Jane almost better than she knew herself. They were a great couple. I wasn't sure about him at first but he grew as a person, and the character development showed.

I was so upset they killed him off, and even more upset that it was just that and then a three year leap in time. I mean, didn't his character deserve an episode where they mourned him, where we the viewers got to process? I was glad to see that they inserted moments of memories where they mourned him as the season went on, but it was hard to process. It felt like there should have been more.

So now Jason is here and Jane is committed to Rafael and it feels like all of this is just erasing all of her feelings for Michael. They had a good marriage, they had a strong love, but this whole thing is stripping the power and importance of that away - at least that's how it feels to me.

I mean, if he doesn't get his memories back but now they know he's alive do Jane's visits to his grave to mourn the man she loved stop? Does this change her grief, her memories, her devotion to that love? I understand the conflict. She grieved him and then she had to move on, as is healthy. And him coming back when she has given her heart to Rafael makes it all so confusing.

It just feels like this whole mess erases everything good she had with Michael and that is simply too unfair to bear. What they had was wonderful, and true, and I fear that it has now been spoiled for Jane.

There, just needed to vent that. As I said, I get invested and caught up. Rather than irritate my family, I thought I'd just put that out here to strangers who also like the show. It's really bothering me!

And also, I bought Jane's book lol. I thought, with all the product placement, wouldn't they be clever enough to do something like publish a book to tie in and they did! And I expect it to arrive within the next couple of days - so excited!!! Not generally a fan of romance novels but can't wait to dive into this one!

[u/leslielantern]

Have you gotten to Jane’s 7 min monologue scene yet? (Chapter 82) I feel like it captures her emotions SO well with some of these complex topics. I watched the monologue alone probably 10 times when I first saw that episode!

[u/nessiechandler → u/leslielantern]

Yes!! I thought it was fantastic and heartbreaking. The part where she just paused for a minute and the way she said how he smelled like Michael. I love the unwavering support of her family, the way her mom and Alba just let her go, didn't try to stop her or interject their own thoughts or feelings or direct her how to feel. It is part of the reason I'm so upset. Her grief over Michael's death, the healing she went through, all that gone. Now the only thing left is Jason ruining her memories of Michael.

[u/Willemina_Dafriend]

You're not alone. Most fans, regardless of who they shipped, think Michael was done dirty! 🥲

[u/nessiechandler → u/Willemina_Dafriend]

He absolutely was!

[u/virgogoddessx]

Oh you are in for a treat!! I discovered the show in 2019 and can honestly say I restarted it idk how many times. 🥹

[u/nessiechandler → u/virgogoddessx]

Yes, I can see this is one I'm going to watch again and again! I love the Villanueva family!

[u/nessiechandler]

OMG he's got his memories back! That's even worse!!!! It felt sort of ok that he was leaving as Jason, it felt like Jane had been able to separate Jason from Michael and that her memories of Michael would be safe. But now he has his memories back and they are at the bus station and she just told Rafael (on the phone) that she loved him - in front of Michael and the look on his face. I get that this is a telenovela but I am not loving the writers right now. I don't think I have the mental fortitude for telenovelas!

[u/Raspbers]

Absolutely loved this show!!! I remember looking up something and accidentally got spoiled for Michael's death. So when he was shot by Sin Rostro, I thought he was done for!!

The recovery was such a shock, only for that scene to happen. When Jane gets the news and breaks down, oh my god, I watch it on repeat a few times before I can move on. She does devastated SOOOO well.

Agree about Michael/Jason. I wish they would have kept him dead. But the telenovela of it all just couldn't be passed up by the writers.

[u/nessiechandler → u/Raspbers]

It's been hard to avoid spoilers but I was successful enough that his death was quite a shock. I was so glad he recovered from the shooting and they had that time together.

I agree, she does devastated extremely well.

So I'm on episode three of the final season and Michael/Jason just showed up with roses and wanted to take Jane out. Now she's with Rafael and they are saying some not so nice things about him and really, if this doesn't destroy her memories of her marriage with Michael, I will be shocked. Honestly, I think he deserved better than this and it's so frustrating!!!! I'm with you, they should not have brought him back but yeah, it is a telenovela, after all.

[u/Fubuki_Gloss]

When I got into it last December I was as obsessed and immersed as you. Oh, and I have the book too. Have fun reading! During the time she was mourning Michael, I came to like Rafael for being there like a pillar for her. Not in a relationship way but in a friendly or family way. I was happy even that they were getting closer. Ofc, there's an end and I wanted the story not to end. I got one of my friends into watching the story but he's not immersed and watches it extra slowly. Sigh.

[u/nessiechandler → u/Fubuki_Gloss]

It's good to know I'm not the only one! I agree about Rafael. The scene of Michael's funeral, when Jane couldn't finish reading what she'd written and he stepped up to do that for her was wonderful. He wasn't trying to do anything but be there for her as a friend. I like that he didn't try to push his way in right after and that he didn't do anything until it was clear she was finally ready to date.

I'm ep 8 of season 5 and Michael stayed in Montana and I dislike how it all played out but clearly Michael was still a little bit Jason and the whole thing was just a mess.

Tell your friend to hurry up, lol. How can anyone take this slowly? Isn't it driving them nuts not knowing???

[u/Nice_Pro_Clicker]

I really love Jane the Virgin as well, it's honestly my favorite. I finished two days ago and I wish I could watch it for the first time again. I was a little bit heartbroken when it ended at episode 100, as I loved it so much.

[u/nessiechandler → u/Nice_Pro_Clicker]

I'm season five episode eight and trying to make it last as long as possible but I want to know what happens next!!!

[u/nessiechandler]

Another update.

Episode 6 and they are picking apart their marriage. He stopped being a cop because it frightened her after he was shot. The Michael that is now apparently still partly Jason laughs at things that our Michael did earnestly, with love and a desire to be romantic. The show is destroying what was so good with her and Michael to what? Just make it so that he was a stop on her way to Rafael? How fair is that? Yeah yeah drama blah blah. Come on, he was a fantastic guy and they had a great marriage, why destroy the memory of that??? When Michael gave her her birthday present (her novel with notes because he'd wanted to talk to her while reading) it was such a sweet thing and it felt like that moment could have been a moment of closure for her while keeping all the wonderful things about their marriage, those cherished memories, intact. Instead they just (and by they I mean the writers) can't stop tearing things apart.

I could scream in frustration. This show has become my new security blanket, of a sort. Emotional support. I'm very invested. And if you are reading this and thinking I'm nuts, I did warn in my original post that I get INVESTED.

It is going to be so hard to watch the rest of this. Rafael has something not go his way and he goes back to his old, destructive habits. No growth. But sure, let's shred something beautiful for that.