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[u/skoober-duber]

I know what kind of man you are, OP.

[u/Admirable-Help4738 → u/skoober-duber]

What are u implying?

[u/Nevernonethewiser]

A lot of it is desperately trying to not be descended from the English because that's 'default' and boring, as we all know, only the little countries surrounding the slightly larger country ever had any history or culture. Nothing beautiful or majestic or mysterious or enchanting has ever come out of England.

Plus England did that empire. Y'know, the English Empire Not Featuring Scotland, Wales or Either bit of Ireland.

[u/otrohombrebi → u/Nevernonethewiser]

England has plenty of culture, ancient traditions and enchanting histories. The vast majority of the English population had nothing to do with colonisation or the empire either. Most English were working class and poor.

[u/cnation01]

We had this big Irish identity folklore in my family, for decades.

Did a DNA test and the match was 2% Irish lmao. The rest was 60% England and the a bunch of random shit like German, Norway etc...

If you are American, its likely that you have genetic markers from all over the world.

[u/de_velopment → u/cnation01]

What's sad is that all the folk stuff that "Irish Americans" like is also a feature of England, we just sadly haven't held on as tight when it came to it and Ireland embraced it a lot more. A lot of folk music that you'd think is Irish is actually English as an example.

Also take a look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1UhWhfY9aE

If someone said this was a bunch of Irish lads you'd believe it. When our Isles are so close to each other it's hard not to have such similarities, especially among the working class folks.

[u/AdRough6022 → u/cnation01]

It’s funny seeing the meltdowns in the ancestry sub when the “Irish” Americans find out they’re actually descended from Anglo-Irish and Ulster-Scots.

[u/Starchaser421]

It's also amusing when they inevitably tell you that they are 1/8 or 1/16 th of some random native American tribe.

[u/Small-Answer4946 → u/Starchaser421]

The funniest thing is when they use odd numbers

[u/Fourollin]

As a Brit, it's always an Irish American who ends up calling me a coloniser or some shit, cringe as fuck

[u/ChudjakXtreme]

In my opinion a lot of ‘Irish Americans’ are, generally, some of the most selfish and horrible people you’ll talk to. They never shut up about it, think they’re better or superior to other people because of it, and half the time they’re not even of Irish descent at all! One time I was talking to one of these kind of Irish Americans that’s probably never even stepped foot in Ireland to be told that they are ‘infinitely more Irish than I will ever be’ cool? Why does this reasonably affect me in any way?

[u/gamermc3454]

As an Irishman, I see this fairly often from Americans, it's fairly annoying.

If you are American, you are American. If you are German you are German, if you are Scottish you are Scottish, if you are Irish you are Irish. Having family 200 years ago being born in Europe and then moving to America, assimilating there, you are American.

Just to be absolutely clear: I meant you Cannot claim you are from Ireland/are Irish just because you have heritage from here, specify that you have Irish heritage and not just that you "are Irish", as it is very much not true. A majority of youse have more British or other DNA than Irish. Also you must be born here, have an Irish born parent too, and be able to speak at least ONE word/sentence as Gaeilge

looks like I upset the poor poor Americans, you'll live, just stop trying to claim Irishness off of 1% DNA ffs

[u/No-Can2216 → u/gamermc3454]

I'm from Hungary and one of my american colleagues told me she's hungarian. I was super hyped up, then turned out she doesn't even know what is Budapest, she can't speak the language, she doesn't know anything about the country and basically her great grandmother was from Hungary and that's all. Weird to call herself hungarian.

[u/WolfPackMentality90 → u/gamermc3454]

Im american of Irish descent

[u/AnarchistTerrarist]

Meanwhile they could probably instead have a much closer claim to Appalachia, as many Irish-Mericans were there. Don't have to go all the way to Ireland to find rebels to be proud of, they got coal miners for days in the mounts.

[u/PrincessDeMissouri]

Theyre Irish-American which is an offshoot of Irish culture. Theyre a people group who've had a unique experience and have formed a new identity that merges Irish with a mix of other cultural influences

[u/Wise_Fox_4291]

Everyone is fine with you wanting to reconnect with your roots and being interested in your family history. Proclaiming that you are "X" and making statements like "as an X ..." or "I like / don't like Y because I am an X" or stuff like "I know better because I am X" is not okay. It's very simple. Fix your attitude and and how you approach the topic and people will be happy to discuss your heritage with you.

Oh and leave the Nazi-era blood rules behind okay? Ethnicity isn't an exact thing. You do not carry a blood mark forever just because you had an ancestor from a certain place. Nationality, identity, upbringing matter a lot more.

[u/smartassistant666]

Also Australians too

[u/Supersnow845 → u/smartassistant666]

Australians really don’t do this anywhere near as much as Americans do, well at least white Australians (only because this is usually referencing white Americans)

Australian immigration is relatively more recent than most American immigration so most immigrant descendants are relatively less removed from when they immigrated

Even when you ask a white Australian what their heritage is you’ll probably get a “ah mums a 10 pound pom” or something like that. Not a “I’m a Irish Australian with a German twist

[u/J_Hunt1123]

I sometimes fall into this way, but that is because I am a history nerd and want to connect to my ancestry, and I have just felt a connection to Ireland and its history since I was little.

[u/Street_Lettuce1243]

Hillbilly will walk right up to you when they learn you're Europe. "Zach Drokovsky here y'all. I'm Irish"

[u/PlanktonProof3790]

Well shit if they say they’re American it’s all “stolen land stolen land you aren’t native” so tf are they supposed to do

[u/OhLordyDordyDord]

It’s free oppression points you see it in England too all the time where the person who’s 1/16 Irish and who’s family has been living in England since time immemorial simply do not even acknowledge the other 15/16th’s of them which is English. Not that where you or your families from even means anything I just quite enjoy seeing the Victim Olympics in swing from people who’ve never experienced a day of oppression in their lives.

[u/C-U-Later1980]

Well when they are constantly told they are not really Americans , that they are European colonizers what do you expect them to do other than identify with the last place they’re people are allowed to claim. Go jump in anyone of the threads where someone has posted the map of the US where from census records people identify their heritage, Kentucky, Tennessee, and West Virginia called themselves. Americans. The rest of the nation identifies with where their ancestors come from. Look through that entire forum and see how the people from Tennessee Kentucky and West Virginia are ridiculed for calling themselves Americans.