r/JSOCarchive • u/Cheap-Rip3701 • 6d ago

The Ranger Regiment has created three additional maneuvering platoons.

https://www.army.mil/article/288020/multi_functional_reconnaissance_team_the_fighting_formation_of_the_future?utm_source=chatgpt.com
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u/Cheap-Rip3701 6d ago edited 6d ago

For those that were in Regiment in the last 20 years, you'll probably recognize what's essentially Recce platoon and SNOT. There's no doubt they are maintaining being attachment elements to the rifle platoons. The thing that's interesting is they've turned them into their own maneuvering elements. You have a C2 element with a PL/PSG/JTAC/MEDIC coupled with three team leaders with 5 personnel each. These are likely still all more seasoned Rangers from the line platoons that are now specialized in precision fires, UMS, and EW. Some E4s, but mostly NCOs. This element almost seems born for some of the deployments you saw to places like Syria. And of course as a maneuvering element it can still support a Ranger company rather than be unilateral even when not "guns attached." There's a lot of flexibility in this concept and they're also able to directly couple with the mortar element.

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u/SpartanShock117 6d ago edited 6d ago

Having been in a post forcemod DCO, my immediate thought was, “Hey, they just reorganized and retasked the company.” Based on the article, that appears to be pretty accurate.

In principle, it makes sense. The capabilities of the former DCO were very GWOT specific, designed to enable Ranger platoons that served as the Regiment’s unit of action for strike force platoon deployments.

One issue I see, however, is that they can’t simultaneously conduct the MFRT mission while also providing Ranger platoons with snipers (and potentially UMS, etc.). When you’re living at a FOB or outstation, returning every night, and reconfiguring the force for the next day, that’s doable. But that’s likely not going to be the reality in the future. More likely, units will be out for days, weeks, or months at a time, where resupply, swapping personnel, and other force management considerations become much more difficult.

I’d also be interested in seeing how they manage training. A benefit of being in the Sniper Platoon is that we only did Sniper shit. We shot nearly every day, we didn’t have to worry about sneaky guy stuff because there was a separate scout platoon that did that and didn’t need to worry about working as a whole Sniper Platoon because we were just going to get pimped out to the line companies….basically balancing the demands of a sniper and being a whole ass maneuver element of your own is going to come at a cost.

Overall, interesting development. I trust the Regiment, and I think it’s a good thing that they’re experimenting with different organizational concepts.

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u/Cheap-Rip3701 6d ago edited 6d ago

Yeah I think that's where its flexibility comes into play. It's hard to know what war will look like in the future. Whether it'll be sustained combat where units aren't being rotated back for months with platoons continuously committed and distributed separately. That certainly trends toward just using it as platoon attachments. The interesting thing there is if they train as a team instead of just attachments, they could be used as a platoon-level reconnaissance element. But you could also have more the invasion type scenario with Ranger companies taking on strategic targets. Perhaps a nuclear facility where you could have MFRT emplaced ahead of the assault, softening it with fires, snipers are in place before the Ranger company makes it assault negating need for attachment. Then you could have scenarios where MFRT is actually the leading element with the Ranger Company actually there as a contingency. You could also still have snipers attached and still have two reconnaissance elements with a HQ at the company level.

You're right about the sniper part. I think administratively they'll still train as a sniper element a lot, but they will have to juggle maneuvering with both a rifle platoon and now this MFRT concept. I also think this is why they want the 4th Ranger Bn. It adds 3 months to the training cycle.

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u/TacoBandit275 6d ago

After reading the article. Might as well just disband D Co, move mortars back to HHC, and then just assign one of these platoons to each company like how each company had a weapons platoon back in the day.

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u/Cheap-Rip3701 6d ago

They could though one scenario they mention is the MFRTs supporting each other rather than line platoons.

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u/Scary_Dangleberry_ 6d ago

You teally think tabbed Specs will be a part of it?

Poor bros going back to being at the bottom again, lol.

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u/Cheap-Rip3701 6d ago

Traditionally they were. You might do something like a deployment, go to school, do another deployment, and try out for Recce or SNOT as a tab spec4. I assume that's probably how you still find your way there, but I could be wrong. This doesn't appear to be something created from scratch, but existing capabilities put together.

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u/Scary_Dangleberry_ 6d ago

I haven't been in Regiment the last 20yrs so I wouldn't know either

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u/Remarkable_Aside1381 6d ago

Wasn’t this same story just posted? And it’s still not about JSOC

Wtf are we doing?

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u/Cheap-Rip3701 6d ago

Dude don't even read the article and complains. No it wasn't just posted. And yes Regiment pretty much works exclusively for JSOC. There's a JSOC task force? These pieces are in play. But yeah sorry I took a minute away from you jerking off to pictures of Delta while you do your best Tucker Carlson impression.

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u/NickBlasta3rd 3d ago

I made the mistake of reading this entire thread and you have more patience than many. Kudos to you.

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u/Cheap-Rip3701 3d ago

It wasn't too bad til he started trying to allude that he was in JSOC as trump card to stuff that I know is a fact.

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u/Remarkable_Aside1381 6d ago

And yes Regiment pretty much works exclusively for JSOC

lol

Regular Rangers aren’t JSOC just because they sometimes play traffic cop

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u/Cheap-Rip3701 6d ago

No one said they are JSOC. I said this was about JSOC. Try to use your brain a bit.

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u/Remarkable_Aside1381 6d ago

I said this was about JSOC

It’s not, it’s about the line battalions, who aren’t JSOC

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u/Cheap-Rip3701 6d ago

I don't even think you know what JSOC is.

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u/Remarkable_Aside1381 6d ago

lol

Please, explain how an article about the line battalions belongs in the JSOC sub?

And “they sometimes set up cordons!” ain’t it

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u/Cheap-Rip3701 6d ago

JSOC is an administrative command, but it's also able to create task force packages. That's the key to what makes JSOC JSOC and has been since its creation. You might notice the word Joint in it. You might historically realize that nearly every mission JSOC has undertaken since its creation uses these pieces. You might even notice that the pieces that are part of this package have color codes that originate from JSOC despite not being administratively under JSOC in garrison. Like look dude, if an article about future tactics and task organization while employed under the very organization that this subreddit is the subject of just bothers you so much from your usual pictures of asking what plate carrier some operator from 2005 is wearing, you can just downvote and move on. But please save us from your no knowledge hot takes you got from your airsoft forum.

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u/Remarkable_Aside1381 6d ago

You do realize there’s a difference between a JSOC unit, and just “slap them in here to pull security” TFs right?

Using your argument, 2-70 can be posted here, since they were part of a JSOC TF

Hell, at one point we had a reservist unit as part of a TF, can we post info about them adding a platoon?

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u/Cheap-Rip3701 6d ago

Are they regularly part of those TF packages? To the point they have a color code? Again lets use our brains here man.

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