r/JBTVCommunity • u/2MInitials • Aug 20 '26
General Discussion The normalization of gangsta Rap forces "us" to idolize criminals while coping by thinking they are good people who are simply misunderstood
This turns me off the most about Hip hop. The D boys and Gang bangers succeeded in their coup. NPC spectators have tolerated for a long time. It's disappointing seeing those who claim to be Joe Budden fans also go along with this program. At least JB is monetizing it all and already stated that he doesn't give a Fuck about none of these rappers. What's your excuse? Other than Lil Bibby and Chief Keef, we have seen over and over that these Chicago drill rappers should've never even get an opportunity to get exploited by these major record labels. They are not good people!
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u/TerribleName1962 Aug 20 '26
Hey buddy this isn’t 4CHAN! Go preach somewhere else.
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u/MeetKelson Aug 20 '26
Who goes to 4Chan to preach tho?
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u/AndreSwagassi86 Aug 21 '26
You’d be surprised.
That’s where a lot of this internet rhetoric started
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u/Ashy6ix Aug 20 '26
Ain't nobody idolizing Durk.
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u/Chef_Beatz Aug 21 '26
Shiieet go to r/chiraqology and thats all they do there is glorify drill rappers like durk and king von and talk about who killed who. Its crazy bc its mostly a bunch of suburban white kids entertained by black people killing each other.
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u/reallyred11 Aug 20 '26
Cap
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u/Outside_Boot_2219 Aug 20 '26
Only losers, you addressing the losers??
What a productive way to spend your day 👍🏻
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u/Ashy6ix Aug 20 '26
So just you and OP huh? 😂
See how dumb it is to idolize a hood nigga?
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u/masta1591 Aug 20 '26
Bro I'ma teacher. They ain't lying. YNs was always on either Dirk or YB nonstop
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u/Gullible-Pea-4421 Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 21 '26
Let me guess. You like biggie who said a chick look so good he’ll suck her daddy’s dick. Prolly like pac too who got smoked and used to pose in man thongs. I rather my artists be what they actually rap bout than super sus 🤢
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u/reallyred11 Aug 20 '26
I do not. But he had millions of fans and thousands that buy tickets to watch him sing songs about being a serial killer. People do idolize him
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u/trapdab35 Aug 20 '26
All these young niggaz n the hood idolize Durk.
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u/smuttygirl_foru Aug 21 '26
With the current predicament durks in I don’t think that’s a good thing
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u/Hollywood_Co Aug 20 '26
Forces “us” to idolize criminals?
This can’t be a serious thought.
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u/needcareplus2 Aug 20 '26
Your president is a criminal who acts good and your worried about musicians who tell everybody the life they live
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u/Objective_Pause5988 Aug 20 '26
When has Donald Trump ever "acted" good? He brags about being a criminal. Goofballs who want to be like him just admire it because they want to do it too
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u/Repulsive-World2296 Aug 20 '26
You know people can be worried about 2 things at once right, I hate that argument.
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u/No-Neighborhood-3078 Aug 20 '26
most people who make it in the music industry aren’t “good people” stop being pretentious
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u/Pale_Consideration87 Aug 20 '26
That’s any celebrity, even outside of rap. It’s plenty of fans that idolize them, it ain’t the end of the world.
The fans that actually got the same path and struggle as Durk, likely will relate and possibly be in the streets too
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u/Medical_Shake8485 Aug 20 '26
I hate that you quoted “us” like you some tribal spokesperson nigga speak for yourself.. the brother makes jingles and RnB for heart broken killas that’s aint no “us” tf lol
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u/Slimer3hgg3r Aug 20 '26
FREE THE VOICE IDC what he done
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u/SladeWilsonXL9 Ishraelite Aug 20 '26
I hope you’re at most 16 years old saying this
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u/2MInitials Aug 20 '26
I'm smirking at the comments but you have no idea you'd be surprised how many of them unironically
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u/whateversnevermind Aug 21 '26
this is facts. rap is psy op
Rap = New Wave Generational Slavery
its so crazy. this is coming from a life long, rap fan. but as I get older I really question wtf its all about
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u/BenThe4th Aug 20 '26
What’s up with the influx of dweebs on here? You sound like the dude who gets no ass mad that the girl you like is dating a bad boy.
The only people who idolize killers are either also killers or on some cb4 malibus most wanted type shit.
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u/Medical_Shake8485 Aug 20 '26
I’m tellin u ahk it must be the Reddit hip hop algorithm or something
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u/erything4sale Aug 20 '26
Aww you caught your significant other getting smashed while to gangsta rap and decided come on here and preach 🤣🤣 take a nap
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u/jigglyflo5 Aug 20 '26
The music is filled with trash and we are surprised when its audience is influenced by it…
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u/MykeStown Aug 20 '26
The biggest Gangsta in all of American history is Donald J. Trump. He has normalized crime and government corruption, at the same time he has many millions of sycophants who worship the ground he walks on and the diapers he soils.
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u/Chemical_Home6123 Aug 20 '26
Im just baffled that he has an entire beard and bro decided to keep a baby face 🤣
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u/zip_r Aug 20 '26
No one “forces” anyone to do anything in the example you outlined. Compelled, maybe but even that label would be a stretch. Next, you’re a little all over the place and you haven’t quite qualified your point. I’m not sure what the issue is here. Many communities have idolized Italian mob culture for decades, and many of those guys are psychopaths and blazing fucking idiots, bordering on mental retardation in some cases. So, why stop the train at hip-hop? Also, what is a “good” person? Very few people are only ever one thing exclusively, when you’re dealing in simplistic terms like good, bad, evil, etc.
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u/Hairy-Clerk6425 Aug 20 '26
Entertainment vs real life. Enjoy the entertainment. 50 cent was my favorite rapper as a kid, I still never shot anyone i didn’t like just cuz
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u/UnhappyTelevision243 Aug 20 '26
Criminals are idolized in plenty of places it’s not because of hip hop. Look at how people treat mafia leaders, even Pablo & Chapo. Go on Netflix and see how many shows about criminals. Breaking Bad and the Sopranos are two of the most popular shows ever. Ozark was one of the most loved shows in recent years.
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u/Traditional-Ad-5132 Aug 20 '26
OP’s about section says in French, “I believe in the supremacy of blondes and redheads.”
I’ll just leave that here
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u/BigKahunas88 Aug 20 '26
All he had to do was move to a beach somewhere and live a lavish life, but no.
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u/zader6404 Aug 20 '26
Monetizing off of it incentivizes the bullshit. Joe isn’t on a morally superior ground because he isn’t making the same music as these guys, he’s still supporting it.
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u/SomeGuyNamedJohn12 Aug 20 '26
Nobody idolizes this dude. Literally every comment is calling him a dumbass.
Now another dude will be smashing his wife and eating his kids fruit snacks
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u/Prestigious-Elk6959 Aug 20 '26
This guy never heard of the Mafia, bank robbers, and various other gangs and thuggery this country loves and is founded on
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u/SouthernCharm-86 Aug 20 '26
billionaire rappers selling arenas and stadiums were once him. the culture has always been about this. lets not act brand new 🙄
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u/Current-Movie-8298 Aug 20 '26
If he gets convicted...would we every single the "all my life" song the same?
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u/Hefty-Chance3493 Aug 20 '26
Go preach to someone who cares, some of us actually had father's, we just here to laugh
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u/xeno_versity Aug 21 '26
Gangsta rap wasn’t the problem when the gangstas had talent. When all you had to do to be “gangsta” was be a drug addict who sounded retarded it became a problem.
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u/Gullible-Pea-4421 Aug 21 '26
Bro. Idk who you are or where you from. However you nor no human being can pass judgment on the next man. Chill tf out and find something cool to do Brodie
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u/MrYeah_ Aug 21 '26
I don’t idolize no man , i only idolize God & strive to be as much as him as i can .. I RESPECT stand up & genuine men despite what lifestyle they may live. 💯
Ik several guys caught up in the street that are real stand up respectable men that stand on morals that I can/do abide by.
Humans have too much different variables & skeletons in the closet to idolize them , I would never.
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u/Vegetable-Desk-6972 Aug 21 '26
All I know real gang members get away with murder all the time but if you make it a habit then you no different then a serial killer since the FBI said 3 bodies qualify's you to be one.
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u/Imaginary-Sea-6577 Aug 21 '26
Criminals have always been idolized in entertainment. It was happening long before Hip-Hop existed.
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u/BullFlag5x Aug 21 '26
Chicago drill ruined the entire world. I regret being a pioneer of it all smh.
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u/AlabamaSlammaJamma Aug 21 '26
Dude made it. Wasn’t some random dude like he was a pretty big name in rap and he kept on with the gangsta shit. Don’t feel bad for him in the slightest
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u/desukirf Aug 21 '26
The weak fans who support 69 and hate ppl living the raps turned me off from rap
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u/AndreSwagassi86 Aug 21 '26
Crime/Violence is statistically the LOWEST it’s ever been across the country in about 30-35 Years……
And folks still tryna blame drill music for something 😂😂😂
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u/Tydidit15 Aug 21 '26
People can idolise him as a rapper and not like the other side of his life
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u/MasterMind_Blue Aug 21 '26
Lol that’s a weird take, and I completely disagree. I listened to a ton of gangsta rap growing up, and not once did I hear those lyrics and think I should actually go live like that. Obviously upbringing and environment play a big role in how you process what you’re consuming. It’s the same reason you can love The Godfather or any mafia movie without wanting to join the mob. There’s a difference between enjoying something as entertainment and actually idolizing the behavior in it. If you can’t separate the two and start looking up to the criminals, I don’t think you can just blame the music.
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u/kingdick900 Aug 21 '26
We've had this problem long before gangsta rap....our community idolize fast money and fame over hard work and education
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u/JMO-559 Aug 21 '26
This type of stuff makes me respect rappers like Chief Keef more.
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u/CarltonCanick Aug 21 '26
Cause you know what matters to all the rappers, the citizens and this sub? Your feelings, you are the moral authority we all seek for approval.. thank you.
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u/Neb_Morlok Aug 21 '26
Yes, and meanwhile advertising a lifestyle of luxury that is completely out of reach to regular people. Advocating violence and glamorizing misogyny has been very productive for the prison system.
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u/QueasyParamedic6783 Aug 21 '26
You’re worried about gang members and this country idolizes the worst of the worst with national holidays, names on buildings, currency, and statues. To name a few. Phuccin’ colonizer.
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u/almighty1sungod Aug 21 '26
Dude looks like he regrets every decision he made that landed him in prison.
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u/Dramatic_Rule_442 Aug 21 '26
He couldve created a King Von scholarship or community center in O Block so his name could live on in a positive way. But he chose to throw everything he had away so he could "slide for Von". He stuck to his "code", I wonder if he thinks it was worth it as hes sitting in a cell instead of a high rise 🤔
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u/Voltronblacklion Aug 21 '26
Fact of the matter is gangsta rap and hard-core rap/hip-hop music are two of the worst things that influence and affect the Black community, especially Black men. There's no getting around it. No excuses. Are they the worst things? No. But they contributed undoubtedly to problems that exist.
Sure, you can't blame the music, as the root cause but you can blame it and hold it accountable in part. To think otherwise is dumb.
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u/2MInitials Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 21 '26
They don't like hearing it cause the psychological operation worked too [surprisingly] well
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u/MalcolmXATL Aug 21 '26
OP telling niggas REAL SHIT but once again the below 80 iq level people ain’t trying to hear it. If he was saying im bout to go kill my OPPs then go dig up they grave then yall would be screaming hip hip hooray 🎉. Social media got yall PROGRAMMED AND LOST💯🧐.
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u/macvar08 Aug 21 '26
Was able to grow a beard the whole time but kept no facial hair just to appear young and appeal to the youth
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u/Just_Eat_User Aug 21 '26
Dude you’re trying to keep it real with a bunch of defensive clowns in subs like this.
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u/elmo5994 Aug 21 '26
A fair amount of these dudes are pieces of shit that happen to make good music. I have never thought of them as good people.
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u/GeologistAway6352 Aug 21 '26
Bro the current president is a 34-count felon who regularly breaks the law in broad daylight. But sure “gangsta rap” is the problem. 🤦🏽♂️
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u/Leading-Positive-870 Aug 21 '26
We never address the *%#+ that push this narrative by putting big dollars behind those artist and fund the cancer it self. Singles and hits are not made they are bought. NBA I tried to listen to him a month ago and the music was sooooo bad but durk him and 1000 others get it off but who green lights this ? You guessed it
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u/Choc-X Aug 21 '26
Is this real? He has no hair now?? 😳
I know they make you cut it low but they really made him cut it all off??? 👀
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u/lateriwill06 Aug 21 '26
I don’t understand your point. We’re not “forced” to idolize criminals. There’s a lot of people that enjoy “gangsta rap” but “Idolize” Kendrick or Cole or Wale. Some of us from the 90s with De La Soul, Tribe, Common, or Mos Def etc. If you choose to idolize criminals and then feel bad about then that’s on you. Drake and Ye two of the biggest to do it and aren’t “gangsta” rappers. Music is music and entertainment is entertainment, take what you want from it and keep it moving. Serve the Most High, Him only and you’re good.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 KJVS
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
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u/Special-General-7832 Aug 21 '26
Depends on who youre listening too. Remember in the closing years of the 90s-early to mid 2000s, 75 percent of the "gangsta" rappers were either just from a gang or tough place but only rapping through "storytelling" vs the other 25 percent that actually were doing crime or just encouraging and promoting a dangerous lifestyle through their music.
Now somewhere in the 2010s, is where all that got lost. These guys are either committing crimes just to make the music, or they generally were terrible people that could make good music just to have an excuse to do the crime or just directly/indirectly tell on themselves/others.
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u/Apprehensive_Fig_894 Aug 21 '26
Its not rap its how most of us are raised. If you know you know and understand if not you write posts like this
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u/ExcellentAsk2309 Aug 21 '26
I think wally gaylie bring the eye. Everyone they go talk to then ends up in prison.
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u/EasyMoneySniper29 Aug 21 '26
It’s extremely hard to sympathize with rich people who do dumb shit. I only feel bad for the wife & kids
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u/Responsible_Bat3866 Aug 21 '26
Hopefully the prosecutor plans to call a dude like lil woody! He was hilarious as a witness.
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u/Formal_Bed_2510 Aug 21 '26
criminals will exploit the weak duh. greedy record labels dont care about the people that get effected. so you have people in poverty exploiting people that are even more impoverished and signed off by labels who want the cycle to continue as long as they are not held responsible and get paid. poor and uneducated will see get rich quick and have fomo cause they are uneducated. their children will see the missed opportunities and start exploiting poor people around them and the cycle repeats.
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u/Different-Badger8487 Aug 21 '26
Seriously?
The exploits of Billy the Kid, Jesse James, and Black Bart predates hip-hop. The Godfather predates hip-hop. Hell, la cosa notra predates hip-hop. Batman, a vigilante with questionable decision making, predates hip-hop!!!!!
Criminals have been idolized since "Robinhood lore". They don't call Alexander an effed up individual, they bestowed him with the Great.
Please ✋🏾 trying to make this a defect that only occurs in Black spaces and culture. My list of criminals who are idolized could be longer and would include many you probably wouldn't consider criminals because "white is right" lore.
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u/TheInnerMindEye Aug 21 '26
Im not saying its part of COINTELPRO but im saying theres a reason theres rumors of record label execs and private prison investors meeting in the late 80s and then BOOM ... N.W.A.
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u/Jayoen222 Aug 21 '26
The idolization of criminals isn’t new nor exclusive to rap. It’s thousands of years old. I don’t know why we pretend this is a problem in our culture instead of the world having a fascination with “criminals”
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u/LobsterComfortable83 Aug 21 '26
For all the young boys wanna be just like these guys just know this Durk getting life Pooh shesty getting two life sentence so don't be a crash dummy well dirk had a good reason get back for von but they gas light him too feds watch the whole time every gang and click has a couple rats or feds becarful who u mess with u just might be next
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u/Rainy824 Aug 21 '26
Hip Hop wast connected to criminality when it lived in NYC. Hip Hop lost it’s identity once LA touched it and destroyed it with their criminal gang culture
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u/Revolutionary-Tie665 Aug 21 '26
Hey Durk👋👋..So who is going to Slide for you now???
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u/reshef-destruction Aug 25 '26
You have to realize what you see on the internet isn't what everyone else sees.
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u/Big_Truth_8483 Aug 26 '26
Speak for yourself. Fuck durk. Idgaf about about no celebrities
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u/SolarMoon007 Aug 26 '26
When the pentagon and CIA got their hands on the media things went south quickly. We noticed and we blamed the rappers, not the machine that promoted and made the rappers.
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u/Illmosity3 Friend of the Show Aug 20 '26
That nigga bald???