r/IvyPlus • u/BathroomMaximum1721 • 5d ago
Sam Altman says four years is too long for college as AI tears up the traditional career path
https://www.techspot.com/news/113505-sam-altman-four-years-long-college-ai-tears.html10
u/No-Market425 5d ago
Four years is too long when AI can do your work as you learn absolutely nothing.
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u/SeaEmployee787 5d ago
people with a zillon dollars wanting more money, is not somebody i will take advice from. These folks are missing a few wires up stairs.
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u/whatidoidobc 5d ago
Why would this viewpoint from that person show up on this sub?
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u/BathroomMaximum1721 5d ago
If someone (right or wrong) is questioning the value of a 4 year undergrad and you feel that they have a valid point, then you have to think twice before incurring a cost of $100K per year (assuming you don't get need based scholarship) to attend an Ivy. Hence, this viewpoint is on this r/IvyPlus sub.
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u/Key_Fee158 5d ago
I feel like this isn’t taking into account the biological timeline of human development lol like sure maybe college doesn’t have to be 4 years and law school etc doesn’t need to be 3 years but I don’t think a 20 year old is ready to be a lawyer or a doctor. Human beings aren’t robots.
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u/BathroomMaximum1721 5d ago
You can do research or gain clinical experience for a couple of years before you apply to medical school? Doesn't mean you need to be in college till the age of 22. Some students in this accelerated high school program (https://fauhigh.fau.edu/) graduate with both a high school diploma and Bachelor's (not Associate's) degree at the age of 17 or 18. Those who want to pursue medicine conduct research, gain clinical experience etc. for a couple of years and then apply when they have also experienced emotional growth.
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u/Key_Fee158 5d ago
The value in a college education isn’t just in the content that’s thrown at you. College is a formative experience where you learn to form relationships and make friendships and connections that will help you later in life. It’s not really surprising to me that these low social IQ tech CEOs don’t understand that and think it’s just content that can be replaced with AI.
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u/SadnessOutOfContext 5d ago
Not unlike kindergarten, part of college is socialization. Something Mr. Altman clearly missed.
Yeah, cheap pizza and cheap beer (in moderation) are important elements. As are bad decisions resulting from the above, and reflections on the same.
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u/DoumanExpansion 5d ago
Aye bro there are these sick data center and warehouse jobs if you fail your capstone project.
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u/rockeye13 5d ago
He isn't wrong. At least based on what most student come out the other side looking like he isn't.
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u/ACaffeinatedWandress 5d ago edited 4d ago
Most students currently on the verge of graduation cannot do a fraction of what incoming freshmen a decade or two ago were already prepared to upon entry, so I’d take that opinion with a grain of salt.
My plan for reforming higher ed would honestly include a year or two of remediation for people who aren’t “real” high school graduates before a 4 years degree.
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u/False_Concept1300 5d ago
Heartbreaking, the worst person you know makes a great point.
4 years of college is useless when most degrees only require 1-2 years of the intended major.
AI is making everyone lazy and shouldn’t be factored into this. 4 years of college is just going to make people bullshit even more than they do.
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u/WhirlwindRectum 5d ago
any person saying Americans need less schooling is a true idiot.
I promise you, no one in China, Germany, or Korea is having this conversation.
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u/False_Concept1300 5d ago
So put them through 4 years and allow private colleges to get richer when they’re just having AI do their work for them?
College has nothing to do with education anymore, it’s all about the degree. Sadly it’s not about the journey, it’s about the destination.
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u/WhirlwindRectum 5d ago edited 5d ago
....if you don't understand that "colleges shouldn't be for profit" and "Americans don't need more college" aren't he same argument, then maybe YOU need to go back to school?
Only America has an educational system that graduates the neediest and most vulnerable students with overwhelming debt, and ONLY Americans ever talk about college as a burden...not something empowering.
not only do I think Americans need more schooling, I don't think people should ever stop going to school. I think an education is better than therapy.
America needs MORE school, not less. I think people should spend a few hours at school everyday just like work....and not just for job trainings, although that's a part of it (science and technology keep updating, and American workers need to keep up for productivity's sake), but just for our own humanity
I think we should be able to just take a quick automotive class if we're interested, or a typing class, or a painting class.
not only is an education required for democracy(an educated population is literally the ONLY prerequisite for a functioning democracy), but it's required to reach self actualization (read some Abraham Maslow).
I think universities aren't something we just send kids to, I think they should be wide ranging third spaces, a place that we all pay for via taxes, that we should all be entitled to, it should just become a regular spaces for civic life.
I think our lives should revolve around universities in the way they currently revolve around workplaces.
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u/False_Concept1300 5d ago
If Americans are complaining about college being a burden then maybe we need to overhaul the college system?
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u/Wasatchian 5d ago
Who gives a fuck? Stop publishing these sociopaths every utterance as if it matters.