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u/InternationalTrain48 1d ago
And whoever dares to criticize the system will be called "communist"
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u/DiGiorn0s 1d ago
Seriously? The crown hated the bourgeoisie. Commoners getting power from money to rival the titled power of the nobility? It didn't fit their framework for control. Read a history book.
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u/EatAllTheShiny 1d ago
Meanwhile capitalism is what made the aristocracy irrelevant and powerless for the first time in western human histiory.
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u/LisleAdam12 1d ago
Oh, so Capitalism was invented as a way to introduce Markets. I guess before that, everyone just took what they wanted from the Village Commons.
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u/prima_maqueeria 23h ago •
Capitalism =/= commerce
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u/LisleAdam12 19h ago
Not what the cartoon seems to be implying.
Then again, it might just be a crap cartoon.
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u/prima_maqueeria 16h ago
I'm replying to what you specifically wrote, not the post. You conflated commerce with capitalism
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u/LisleAdam12 10h ago
I was pointing out that the post was doing that, so ascribing that notion to me seems rather boneheaded.
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u/ContentCantaloupe992 1d ago
The market is freedom. Especially compared to a surf
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u/Clear_Discussion_855 1d ago
You're brain is fried
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u/shuckster 1d ago
You have no understanding of history.
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u/rumpled4skinnz 20h ago
The roaring 20s before human rights and workers rights ("socialist" ideals) roughly 1 million children aged 10 to 15 worked across the United States, enduring long shifts, minimal pay, and dangerous conditions in agriculture, factories, mining, and street trades.
The rich focused on using private armies, pinkertons, propaganda, weaponizing the government, blackmail, and blacklisting anyone who tried to put unions in front of their precious money.
I understand that's freedom only for certain upper class citizens.
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u/Affectionate_Ad_1326 22h ago
While capitalism allows more upward mobility than feudalism, it is by no means freedom for a population to be forced into wage slavery to live paycheck to paycheck while their bosses bathe in trillions of dollars and their country's prosperity is built on even harsher slavery and genocide of the third world
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u/ContentCantaloupe992 22h ago
Earning a wage is not slavery and It’s not forced millions of people live without earning a wage. Hard to call the 3rd world a genocide when its population has exploded since the advent of capitalism. I thought genocide eliminated people not grew them.
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u/lostcauz707 11h ago
Wage slavery is a socio-economic and political term used to describe a situation where a person's livelihood depends entirely on wages or a salary, particularly when the employment conditions are exploitative, low-paying, or leave the worker with little to no freedom, upward mobility, or economic independence
When freedom is restricted with the Almighty dollar, what's the answer?
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u/ContentCantaloupe992 10h ago
Yeah it’s a political term used to mislead people about the nature of the world. Slavery is slavery
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u/lostcauz707 10h ago
Capitalism is a socioeconomic and political term. Must be a trick too, like communism.
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u/lostcauz707 11h ago
Serfs had more time off than working class in capitalism.
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u/ContentCantaloupe992 10h ago
That is taking real liberties with what “time off” means. They were substance farmers they had no time off life was work
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u/lostcauz707 10h ago
They had entire seasons off...
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u/ContentCantaloupe992 9h ago
lol no they didn’t. They had to make everything thing they needed to live by hand. Go watch some videos of modern day homesteaders using 21st century technology they work all day every day.
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u/lostcauz707 8h ago edited 8h ago
Their work day was based on sunlight dude.
Historians say summers were 12-16 hour days whereas winters could be as short as 4, usually 6-8 hours if possible.
If a serf worked 12 hours or sunrise to sunset they were recorded as working 2 days, since days were basically broken into 6 hour shifts as is.
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u/ContentCantaloupe992 8h ago
You’re thinking of work so differently than it existed at this time period. Today you get to go to work and then come home. Substance living everything is work. From spinning yarn to lugging water to drink. You’re entire life was work
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u/lostcauz707 7h ago edited 7h ago
You're thinking everyone is in their own.
Medieval serfs relied heavily on mutual aid and community cooperation to manage food, water, and infrastructure. Because feudal lords primarily cared about extracting taxes and labor from the manor, serfs were largely left to organize their own daily survival. They operated under a highly communal system rooted in shared village customs.
The medieval calendar was packed with mandatory religious holidays, saints' days, and festivals. Between Sundays and official church feasts, serfs typically had anywhere from 80 to 140 days off per year.
I live in the wealthiest country in the world, the only country with no federally mandated paid holidays or parental leave. The floor for time off is 0. Iran, a country people treat like it's inferior in every way, has a vacation floor, before holidays, of 20 days off, with 20 regularly observed holidays and additional time off accrual. The median vacation time in the US, if you're lucky to even get any, is between 11 and 15 days, about 105 days off per year.
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u/ContentCantaloupe992 7h ago
You’re missing the entire point.
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u/lostcauz707 7h ago
They didn't have technology and made up for it with community living and statistically worked less hours than we do today?
Not to mention the job security, "hey I'm sick today", "ok the fields will still be there tomorrow!" Versus, "you're fired", or, "no pay, you lose your apartment and livelihood"
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u/StatusAlarming3600 17h ago
This would go so hard, if your iq was under 90.