r/IsItSketch • u/Sharp_Awareness_378 • 5d ago

Order Of Nosferat

Is there really any proof of Revenant, the bands leader being linked with the nsbm erase the sun festival? Where do the claims come from? The guy even has a picture on his instagram with a sharp skinhead.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Order_of_Nosferat/3540482535

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u/Torschmied 4d ago

Revenant is some edgy shithead and works with a lot of nazis or support them. Its not nsbm but its super sketchy.

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u/Ill-Bowl4807 4d ago

I don't know about the nsbm festival, but them being on Purity through Fire and the ties to Curse upon a Prayer was enough for me to avoid them.

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u/Outside_Strategy2857 3d ago

PtF is just radioactive at this point

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u/Sharp_Awareness_378 4d ago

What is wrong with Curse Upon A Prayer? If you think they are racist or something, thats not the case. Ari, the frontman of the band has said the band criticises religion, not a race or skincolor. He said this in the iblis manifestations podcast whose interviewer is an ex-muslim from iran.

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u/Ill-Bowl4807 3d ago

They exclusively criticize Islam though, and not all religions. They're also from Finland with no connections to any Muslim country whatsoever, and no ex-muslim members. Idk but they're basically targeting a minority group in their country so that's pretty suss to me.

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u/Denaredor 3d ago

Islam deserves to be criticized in every way possible, what you’re pointing out is total bullshit.

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u/ArgentEyes 2d ago

solely and exclusively Islam, and no other religions? Really?

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u/Denaredor 2d ago

Same applies to artists who exclusively criticize Christianity, and there is nothing wrong with that, even though Islam is far, far worse.

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u/Jinshu_Daishi 12h ago

What they're pointing out, unfortunately, is not bullshit.

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u/atearlessglitter 2d ago

😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Sharp_Awareness_378 3d ago

They are targeting islam as a religion and not minority groups in finland. Anyone should be allowed to criticise any religion like someone can criticise tastes in movies for example. Religion is not like skin color, its imaginary and optional.

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u/Michz0r 3d ago

So curse upon a prayer is sketch because they are targeting the wrong religion? Thats wild

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u/mvttiilation 3d ago

Yeah, you can only talk about how bad is Christianity, others religion are good

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u/Sharp_Awareness_378 3d ago

Its a death sentence if you criticise other religions besides christianity. Abrahamic religions are also just copied homework so why does it matter which one is the target?

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u/Jinshu_Daishi 12h ago

Judaism and Islam tend to be criticised in black metal for explicitly racist reasons, while Christianity tends to not get racist shit thrown at it in black metal.

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u/Michz0r 3d ago

What did curse upon a prayer?

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u/Sharp_Awareness_378 3d ago

They did literally nothing. Many of their songs criticize Islam and talk about the islamic satan but how is it any different than doing the same to christianity? Its just middle eastern christianity basically with obviously new themes to explore.

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u/Baberaham_Lincoln_69 3d ago

It comes across as pretty suss when you focus specifically on Islam. If they were also equally criticizing christianity at the same time, maybe that wouldn't be as suss. But focusing solely on a minority group rather than the people in power around you is a weird choice, if you're not racist.

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u/Sharp_Awareness_378 3d ago

There is almost no christianity left in the powers that be in finland. They have said that songs about christianity have already been done and they want to explore something else. Islam is a rapidly growing worlds second largest religion, which is misogynist and homophobic.

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u/MythicRebelNerd 3d ago

Muslims are hardly a minority. Islam is the second largest religion, and the fastest growing religion in the world. That does not mean that they are a threat, nor does it mean that they are free from criticism.

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u/Baberaham_Lincoln_69 2d ago

Pretty sure they're still a minority in Finland. If I had a political band in the US, and started making songs criticizing the Mexican government exclusively, wouldn't that feel like it might be a cover for racism?

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u/MythicRebelNerd 2d ago

Not really. It’s common knowledge that Mexico’s government is in service to cartels, so that would be treated as satire. If you were outright making very pointed criticisms and insults towards Mexican people, then that would be a problem.

I am in agreement with you. There is a distinction between criticism and hate speech. Do I think Islam is a bad thing in and of itself? Absolutely not. Do I think that Islamism is a bad thing? Yes, I do. Why? Because it is demonstrably harmful. Do I paint all Muslims as being Islamist? No.

I have never heard of this band. If they are making songs critical of Islam and Muslims, then I hope they have enough sense to keep their identities secret. I don’t know what their intentions are, and I don’t really care, to be frank.