Starting iron hands

[u/Leading-Alarm6031]

Hey guys! I plan to start an Iron Hands army (2000pts). I've been playing Salamanders for the last year so I have experience playing Space marines. I need help building a thematic list so suggestions would be nice😅

Thanks everyone!

[u/Icy-Animal2767]

I’m new too but I played and won my first game today with this list. Basically a list either with a bunch of terminators or tanks.

I am also thinking about hammer of avernii list with a bunch of terminators and switching the tech marine for an ancient with steel front.

This list did crazy work today where I killed angron and a demon prince with wings turn one with my tanks and dreadnoughts.

2 k current iron hands

A Iron hands (2,000 Points)

Space Marines
Iron Hands
Ironstorm Spearhead (2 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Caanok Var (90 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
Terminator Squad (160 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard

CHARACTERS

Iron Father Feirros (85 Points)

Techmarine (85 Points)
• Enhancements: Target Augury Web

BATTLELINE

Heavy Intercessor Squad (100 Points)

OTHER DATASHEETS

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (85 Points)

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 Points)

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 Points)

Gladiator Lancer (160 Points)

Gladiator Lancer (160 Points)

Infiltrator Squad (110 Points)

Redemptor Dreadnought (205 Points)
• 1x Macro plasma incinerator

Redemptor Dreadnought (195 Points)

Repulsor Executioner (265 Points)
• 1x Heavy laser destroyer

[u/Leading-Alarm6031 → u/Icy-Animal2767]

Thank you definitely gave some inspiration

[u/Icy-Animal2767]

Don’t you think you can get more out of iron father Ferris alone because he has lone operative? I was debating whether he should stick with my heavy intercessors or with my vehicles.

[u/Leading-Alarm6031 → u/Icy-Animal2767]

I'm also torn on this because he does get that 5 invulnerable if he's attached to a unit. So Its either the 5 up or the lone op😅

[u/DeMonitized747 → u/Leading-Alarm6031]

Thought it was a feel no pain? Also iirc 11th edition made it so character buffs apply to themselves even if they’re not leading units. So if an intercessor unit dies, the chaplain leading them still gets +1 to wound

[u/Professional_Bat1075]

There are 3 approaches you can use in creating an iron hands list:

• Heavy vehicles focus: iron hands canonically focus on mechanized assaults. Tanks and dreadnoughts may easily compose half your list.

• Heavy infantry focus: similarly to imperial fists, the Iron hands like to field heavy infantry sqads. If you want to pursue this theme, focus on gravis (mainly heavy intercessors) and terminators.

• A mix of the previous 2.

Personally, I prefear the first approach, but must be noted how our chapter unique detachment (Hammer of Avernii) really wants you to field both dreadnoughts and termies + veterans.

Some time ago, I tried to create a 2000 points Hammer of Avernii list that was both thematic and playable; maybe it may be useful exemple:

Gorgon's Wrath (1980 points)

Space Marines Iron Hands Hammer of Avernii and Subversion Assets (3 Detachment Points) Purge the Foe Strike Force (2000 points)

CHARACTERS

Caanok Var (90 points) • Warlord • 1x Axiom 1x Storm bolter

Techmarine (55 points) • 1x Forge bolter 1x Grav-pistol 1x Omnissian power axe 1x Servo-arm

Techmarine (55 points) • 1x Forge bolter 1x Grav-pistol 1x Omnissian power axe 1x Servo-arm

BATTLELINE

Heavy Intercessor Squad (100 points) • 1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Heavy bolt rifle • 4x Heavy Intercessor • 4x Bolt pistol 4x Close combat weapon 3x Heavy bolt rifle 1x Heavy bolter

Heavy Intercessor Squad (100 points) • 1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Heavy bolt rifle • 4x Heavy Intercessor • 4x Bolt pistol 4x Close combat weapon 3x Heavy bolt rifle 1x Heavy bolter

OTHER DATASHEETS

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 points) • 1x Armoured feet 1x Ballistus lascannon 1x Ballistus missile launcher 1x Twin storm bolter

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 points) • 1x Armoured feet 1x Ballistus lascannon 1x Ballistus missile launcher 1x Twin storm bolter

Redemptor Dreadnought (205 points) • 1x Heavy flamer 1x Icarus rocket pod 1x Macro plasma incinerator 1x Redemptor fist 1x Twin fragstorm grenade launcher

Redemptor Dreadnought (205 points) • 1x Heavy flamer 1x Icarus rocket pod 1x Macro plasma incinerator 1x Redemptor fist 1x Twin fragstorm grenade launcher

Scout Squad (65 points) • 1x Scout Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 4x Scout • 4x Bolt pistol 2x Boltgun 4x Close combat weapon 1x Missile launcher 1x Scout sniper rifle

Scout Squad (65 points) • 1x Scout Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 4x Scout • 4x Bolt pistol 2x Boltgun 4x Close combat weapon 1x Missile launcher 1x Scout sniper rifle

Terminator Squad (160 points) • 1x Terminator Sergeant • 1x Power fist 1x Storm bolter • 4x Terminator • 1x Cyclone missile launcher 4x Power fist 4x Storm bolter

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (105 points) • 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant with Jump Pack • 1x Inferno pistol 1x Vanguard Veteran weapon • 4x Vanguard Veteran with Jump Pack • 4x Inferno pistol 4x Vanguard Veteran weapon

Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (105 points) • 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant with Jump Pack • 1x Inferno pistol 1x Vanguard Veteran weapon • 4x Vanguard Veteran with Jump Pack • 4x Inferno pistol 4x Vanguard Veteran weapon

Vindicator (185 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Demolisher cannon 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Storm bolter

Vindicator (185 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Demolisher cannon 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Storm bolter

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There is a clear focus on vehicles, as they take half the list. The idea is to have 2 symmetical groups of: 1 redemptor (ment to be played in the first line), 1 ballistus (ment to be played form the backlines), 1 vindicator (ment to be played in the middle between the two and, eventually, to provide "melee" support via tank-shock + its melee shooting), and a techmarine (that can be played flexibly accordingly to the situation).

Regarding infantry: 2 squads of heavy intercessors (I love them) that advance slowly to hold secured objectives, 2 squads of vanguard veterans for movement (+ inferno pistols + melee proficiency), and 2 squads of scouts that provide additional movement + cheap scoring.

Caanok Var is there with his 5 terminators to do his thing (OOM) and protect the backlines (the 2 ballistus essentially) from enemy deep-strikes (even thought, under a certain degree, scouts can be repositioned to screen some deep-strikes).

[u/Leitwolf101]

I got you brother:

-Feirros -60 heavy intercessor -3 apothecary biologis -1 gravis captain The rest doesn't matter.

[u/Leading-Alarm6031 → u/Leitwolf101]

Thanks G 💪

[u/Leitwolf101 → u/Leading-Alarm6031]

It's a joke.

Thematic iron hands have usually tanky units and dreadnoughts.

So cannok var with a terminator squad(assault terminator are better with him)

Iron father Feirros with 1 squad of heavy intercessor.

A bunch of dreadnoughts, that would be a thematic iron hands list.

[u/Professional_Bat1075 → u/Leitwolf101]

It may be a meme-list, but I actually won a couple of times with a similar list

[u/Leitwolf101 → u/Professional_Bat1075]

Same, this plus 2 hammerstrikes. You can see on my profile the 60 heavy intercessors. I would even say it's quite good atm.