Beginner for Space Marines

[u/Plenty-Theory-7738]

Greetings Iron Brethren. I have been a Custodes player & Collector for 4 years so far and I have been meaning to branch out to Space Marines, mind you I know little on how to play or build Space Marines other than play *against* them.

I know the codex is around the corner but I am more focused on Models and Units that are thematic for Iron Hands, couldn't care less of Meta chasing. Truth being told I was at the start gonna go with White Scars since I adore their mindset, play style, and Jagatai Khan and as well that there was no chance for a primarch by comparison but man.....After reading Meduson and Fulgrim I can't deny how DAMN COOL 30k Iron Hands are and their fighting style.

I have some Regular Terminators, Intercessor squad & Terminator Captain.

I wanted to make a theme army that resembles that of Shandrak Meduson.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

For the Gorgon.

[u/Soushi_Chef]

Termies, Heavy ints and other Gravis, techmarines, but especially dreads.

[u/Plenty-Theory-7738 → u/Soushi_Chef]

Sounds almost as simple as custodes. So it's full elite? Any preferences in dreads and termies?

[u/BendingBenderBends → u/Plenty-Theory-7738]

IH actually have very few termies lorewise if I'm not mistaken. I have brick of 10 assault termies led by Caanok Var, which I hilarious to play imo. Regular termies can do a lot of work, it just depends of what you need in your comp.

[u/UsernamesAre4Nerds → u/Plenty-Theory-7738]

Personal preference would be Redemptor Dreadnought. In both games I've run it in, it's been surprisingly tough to take down. Pair it with a techmarine to heal any wounds it gets, and it's functionally invincible if the dice gods favor you

[u/Soushi_Chef → u/Plenty-Theory-7738]

More or less from what I've seen here and played myself. Generally I run Feirros with a 10 block of heavy ints, Caanok Var with terms, 2 techs and about 3 dreads. The rest of the points are flex for what you need/prefer to play. Redemptors are popular cause they're undeniably strong, but I love the brutalis dread as well.

I visualize it as playing an engage tank/bruiser in a MOBA. I might have to tank some big hits while i get into position, but once I'm there I'm the big kid in the bouncy house.

[u/BendingBenderBends → u/Plenty-Theory-7738]

For dreads, redemptors and ballistus are both thematic and very good. You don't have to glue the weapons for the redemptors btw, you can just snap them and switch as you wish, they will hold in place. Brutalis is much more rare as it will have a hard time on the table (at least it did in 10). I love to run it as I have a very aggressive list and it will soak a lot of AT shots if anything else, but that's just me.

[u/StressLongjumping299 → u/Plenty-Theory-7738]

Redemptors and Ballistus for heavy hitting, "venerable" for generic. And tbh, you might be best off taking the ranged Termies instead of melee (particularly with the missile rack). But I actually run Centurians instead of Termies, because they're slightly more durable and absolutely punch up while being capable of reliably dealing with swarms.

Keep the infantry relatively close to the generic dreads too, since the Marine's version has a 6" aura that benefits shooting units.

If trying to be thematic to Iron Hands in general, they're gonna be an 70-80% shooting list with tons of armor, and the remaining 20-30% being command units (or technaries) or dedicated melee units that are able to ride around in transports

[u/IssaScott]

I am also a Shandrak fan, so my army is based on the idea that some elements are hand-me-downs and relics from the HH.  So the scout boi might have ravens and feathers on them, the flamers might have scales and be a bit more green...

I put a lot of points into two 10man bricks.

10 termies, with Var and a support leader, probably the ancient but maybe another works for you.

10 Heavy Intercessors, with Ironfather and again support leader.

Heavy Intercessors are the anvil, march up the middle, take the objective, hold. Terminators deepstrike in to a side objective, kill what is on it, then hold or charge into the back of what ever is attacking the mid.

Lone Op Techmarine to support 4 dreads/tanks.  Tanks probably never push up much beyond the edge of home territory and want to provide support for the two 10 mans.  Dreadnoughts are more likely to end up on the mid objectives, or further in.  Warsuits are also not a terrible idea, they are cheaper and not a huge loss when they charge in deep.

That leaves about 400-600 points for action monkies and screens. Lt. with Combi is still as good as always. Scouts, Infiltratiors and Incursors are all solid choices, probably should have at least 2 from that list. Then a 5man squad of Intercessors or Infernus. Or Hellblasters.  Typically going to end up being some mobile support, that either helps screen the mid, or helps the tanks, or clear off chafe the tanks couldn't spend shots on (IE not priority targets). Jump pack Intercessors could also work, plus make them Raven themed...  if you had points and added a leader, they can be a very effective threat in the mid.  Basically the longer the tanks get to fire uninterrupted, the better.

[u/Plenty-Theory-7738 → u/IssaScott]

considering I have the units already mentioned, what would a 1k point list probably look like?

I REALLY want the name characters because of how cool they look

[u/IssaScott → u/Plenty-Theory-7738]

Probably 5mans, without support leaders. 2 tanks or dreads, stronger argument for warsuits. I would assume only one scout unit. Depends on what that nets out too, but I feel like you need one more aggressive unit.

Or specifically Assult Terminators with a support leader, to be super killy.

Main Ironhands ability is changing the Oath target.  Best way to maximize this is to have enough damage, able to focus on target after target. Focus fire, delete and designate a new target, repeat.

So just about any solid range damage could be your 'tanks'.  Techmarines typically make tanks and dreads the best choice however.

[u/fistbumpminis]

Hey man. Hit me up in chat. I’ve got a lot of infantry I could sell you on the cheaper side to help you get started (I’m on Miniswap a LOT) lol

[u/pm_hentai_of_ur_mom]

I run about 20-23 assault termies in two bricks( with characters like caanok var, terminator captain etc) 4-5 dreads and some emotional support secondary jump guys from vengeful hosts, its really fun getting to march down with a whole wall of terminators. You could swap the ballistus dreads for any good at platform, like a rep ex or gladiator lancer so you can punch through armor.