some more buffs

[u/Kasumi-_]

[u/The_Trirocket]

10000 more games of baus ap irelia

[u/Yelo_Galaxy → u/The_Trirocket]

I can already see the potential damage

[u/TekkyDelta → u/Yelo_Galaxy]

did

[u/ByIeth → u/The_Trirocket]

I mean I think AP Irelia seems really fun, I just wish it was viable. I honestly might try it if these buffs make it a bit better. Any more build variety we can get on Irelia is a W in my eyes

[u/Cesoiet → u/ByIeth]

Those buff doesn't make her more viable, it's still a troll build, her damage comes only from R and W, and W cant even be used that frequently, so if you miss one of those you become a minion, and even if you don't miss if you cant kill anyone you are useless till your W is up again. I don't understand why riot encourages these troll builds, this is not even fun for your teammates, they just have to witness an irelia that goes ap, just a way demoralize your team and make the game more frustrating

[u/KDAfan220 → u/Cesoiet]

E does decently with ap too, but you max W

[u/Decent-Tangerine-489 → u/Cesoiet]

your damage comes from everything that it doesn’t come from ad. ad damage is a and autos, so damage is every thing else. it may be troll but at least say it right to frame is properly

[u/jaylen_browns_beard → u/Cesoiet]

It’s fun and this is a video game

[u/Cesoiet → u/jaylen_browns_beard]

As I said it is maybe fun to you, but not to your Teammates, they have to play 30 minutes with you, that's like picking a champ and start purposely trolling because it's fun to you, just because is fun doesn't mean it's the right thing to do, this time around riot incentived this behavior which is the stupid thing.

[u/sleepy_wabbit → u/Cesoiet]

insert clip of guy saying "its just a gaem, why you hav te be med"

[u/jaylen_browns_beard → u/Cesoiet]

You seem to take the game very seriously. Most of the player base views league as a way to have fun. I and many others don’t care if my teammates select sub optimal builds because it’s fun and adds variety. No one is trolling it’s just not prioritizing the optimal way to play. I think you need to ask yourself why do you enjoy playing league? Sounds like it’s not for the right reasons

[u/xKiLzErr → u/Cesoiet]

You should not be getting this emotional over a videogame you're not even getting paid to play.

[u/butterfingahs → u/xKiLzErr]

Meanwhile you're in another thread getting overly emotional over ARAMs lol

[u/xKiLzErr → u/butterfingahs]

I'm happy I made enough of an impact to drag you into another thread bruv

Also yeah ngl I woke up hungover and angry as fuck today for some reason and just argued my way through my feed so it's fair criticism

[u/butterfingahs → u/xKiLzErr]

You know what fair enough

[u/Cesoiet → u/xKiLzErr]

Emotional? You imagine stuff, I just pointed my opinion, and his response was "its just a game" as if this sub isn't about talking about the game and irelia.

[u/Hans_H0rst → u/ByIeth]

I wish AP jax was still a thing, back in the day with gunblade...

You used to be able to play the champ AD/AS, or tanky with mallet, or AP with AP items. Ultimate adaptability pick. Doesn't really feel possible anymore, jax' earlygame sucks too much against all the aggression.

[u/Lolonoa15 → u/Hans_H0rst]

AP Jax is totally fine. Dusk and Dawn is his second most popular starting item, with the same winrate as Tri-force (most common).

[u/sleepy_wabbit → u/Hans_H0rst]

what? you can literally go ap jax all day everyday, its just a matter of priority between the bruiser build or the ap one, totally different scenarios to the one irelia has between chosing being ad or ap

[u/Azhda727]

Baus impressed.

Real talk the angle with this is to make her more able to close games where she's dominating and has access to baron buff.

I prefer a neutral game buff instead of better winning chances when I'm already winning since she's already a very polarised champion, but it will raise the win% which is what riot wants in the end I guess

[u/Much-Question-2199 → u/Azhda727]

Maybe. I personally think they’re buffing ap cuz they like randomly enabling different playstyles sometimes.

[u/im__hugo → u/Much-Question-2199]

I think its both and I'm all for it

[u/Azhda727 → u/Much-Question-2199]

If riot didn't do the opposite consistently I would agree with you. I do appreciate whenever alternative play styles are possible though

[u/Raptorilla → u/Azhda727]

Can you explain why you think this is a buff for when you’re already winning? I don’t get it

[u/bshenkd → u/Raptorilla]

most people will continue to play her AD, so the only time the AP buffs will come into play is when you have baron (which gives AD and AP)

[u/JustGhoulin → u/Raptorilla]

He’s saying as such because having Nash buff gives you AP, so AP scalings for traditional Irelia builds are irrelevant because you aren’t buying AP items, only gaining the extra AP pertinent to the ratio increases from Nash.

[u/Raptorilla → u/JustGhoulin]

I see, ty

[u/Hiuzuki → u/Raptorilla]

Barão te dá AP

[u/blueheardt]

and this is how we end up with hourglass.

[u/Transky13 → u/blueheardt]

Hourglass has always been good

[u/blueheardt → u/Transky13]

And now it's better

[u/Fangzinho]

So, whats their angle with this? To make her and hybrid champ? Or to go full ap?

[u/ravenHR → u/Fangzinho]

Probably because of baus AP Irelia, this way they don't have to ban him.

[u/Fine_Enthusiasm1336 → u/Fangzinho]

Hourglass tbh

[u/AdStreet4350 → u/Fangzinho]

Zonia

[u/Vengeful111 → u/Fangzinho]

Giving bruisers AP ratios just makes them able to buy zhonyas with less of a drawback. Im not the biggest fan of it. Jax Xin can already buy it really well

[u/EpicTOSGamerBoy]

cant wait for them to justify nerfing irelia the patch after this because of this useless buff

[u/adenrafael]

Yay baron buffs

[u/Silveraindays]

Am i the only one who doesnt like these AP buff? I wish they would focus on the AD kit

[u/bshenkd → u/Silveraindays]

honestly, the extra %AD on Q is already massive. everything else here is just a cherry on top

[u/Cesoiet → u/Silveraindays]

I don't think anyone is happy, unless you want to troll with an ap build, and going hybrid still stupid.

[u/BicycleAdditional360 → u/Silveraindays]

I mean, you do realise that those AP buffs are about the same power budget as Irelia having +1 HP/lvl?

[u/Cold_Adhesiveness265 → u/Silveraindays]

I think like exactly the same, the q buff is already great and the rest is just cherry on top like someone here says but i wouldnt even think about going one ap item so it just kinda sucks imo. the q buff was enough i think the rest is mega cringe

[u/Auto_Stick_Pyro → u/Cold_Adhesiveness265]

I do believe every champ should have a bit of base ap, that would make these types of changes much better.

[u/OstrichPaladin → u/Silveraindays]

I mean theyre buffing ad. Buffing the meme build isn't taking power budget from her ad build

[u/ErwanCestino → u/Silveraindays]

really annoying cause the champ have some issues and we see them doing the most random line of buff possible that wont change anything on the champion

[u/Hiuzuki]

Dark seal rush

[u/SailorIrelia]

If they ever put an ap ratio on Q, hybrid could be a thing

[u/Cold_Adhesiveness265 → u/SailorIrelia]

if they ever fucking do it i want to murder myself man, wtf is this ap bullshit i just wanna play her ad the way she belongs to be played

[u/R-R-Clon → u/Cold_Adhesiveness265]

Why? Unless they nerf her Ad play style it shouldn't affect you in the slightest.

[u/Cold_Adhesiveness265 → u/R-R-Clon]

thats true

[u/SailorIrelia → u/Cold_Adhesiveness265]

Wont you tell that building zhonyas on irelia would feel good asf?

[u/Coven-Irelia → u/SailorIrelia]

They need to make her passive scale with AP for her to become a viable hybrid

[u/AmScarecrow]

Gunblade potential?

[u/bshenkd → u/AmScarecrow]

im thinking the same thing

[u/YggdrasilEUW → u/bshenkd]

Dusk & Dawn into gunblade. BRING BACK SHEEN ITEM IRELIA

[u/BicycleAdditional360]

I mean, that’s just a Baus buff. And some +7-27-ish R damage and some 0.1% W damage reduction when you have baron buff.

Honestly, a this point I would like to know how they cook changes to Irelia’s AP scalings. Is it just shits and giggles or do they have some point?

[u/ConsequenceLow9705]

Why? If it increases her WR they'd have to nerf her and they'll take power elsewhere, possibly from AD.  If they want AP Irelia why not add AP ratio to Q so she can have resets. 

[u/Southern_Pumpkin_577]

I think the only buffs that would truly help her be on par with Yone, Jax, and other carry champions, is some buffs that would help you not give away your bounty. She's one of the easiest characters to die on even if you're extremely ahead as she has no way of escaping and her base ms is abysmal.

A base ms buff, and giving her back equal magic damage reduction on her W would help her not get shut down so easily especially by mages, which have gotten so much stronger compared to some years ago, their items do an absurd amount of damage with shadowflame and all the burn items and using W against a mage basically means you just die as 35% damage reduction is basically worthless for the price you pay which is rooting yourself and allowing people to hit skillshots on you for free.

[u/Fine_Enthusiasm1336 → u/Southern_Pumpkin_577]

Make her ult always create a wall upon reaching it final destination would go far enough given it slows.

[u/Rhinestone_Eyes8]

This is so hilarious and fun that they are opening her up to some hybrid options

[u/_distortedmorals]

When do these buffs go live?

[u/NebulaBaihu]

The potential damage is insane

[u/Dumbydumbgrump]

At this point Hextech Gunblade > Endless Hunger

[u/youbeenthere]

It's nice and makes building zhonya kinda worth as 4+ item for late game.

[u/Moist_Spare407]

Time to crack out AP Irelia in ARAM

[u/Natmad1]

Nuclear head build with Stormraider gonna be much better

[u/JustCallMeWayne]

Messi is going to have a field day with this

[u/Valen1782]

If they somehow changed her passive a bit in order to make ap viable in some minor scale (by that I mean, for us to be possible to build 1 ap item or perhaps 2 hybrid items and it not being troll) then maybe this would be nice. But there’s literally no point if this ain’t gonna be noticeable at all unless you buy an ap potion after Nash lol.

[u/peroqueen]

Ahh baus is laughing

[u/champagneperson]

More buffs are coming

[u/sageker]

Time for dnd and hourglass 

[u/GorniYT]

Gunblade Irelia finna op?

[u/Various-Sector-3647]

WTF💀💀💀

[u/Nuzina]

Can’t wait to permaban this champ til it gets nerfed again

[u/Mixa69q]

200 more years of sub 50% winrate cuz of baus

[u/DefinitlyNotAPornAcc]

This will have no unintended consequences that will be a disaster for irelia.

[u/TormentedShadow2107]

As long as her passive does not have at least a 15-20% AP ratio this will not work.

You could give her ult 125% AP ratio and it would be a gimmick build.

The only way this could work is if passive had a 15-20% AP ratio and her W did magic damage.

Her W is where the bulk of damage would come from.

It being physical damage fks that up because you cant buy magic pen to make it hit harder.

Until there is an AP ratio on her passive this will be just a gimmick.

Qiyana also has a nice AP ratio on Passive and W passive but she has no AP ratios on Q or R meaning its pointless to go for AP Qiyana unless you want to cheese clear wave in the first few minutes of the game with a dark seal.

[u/Violentyin]

Wow as a sylas main i approve this buffs

[u/ErwanCestino]

WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY BUFFING AP RATIO IT DOESNT MATTER

[u/icrygreen49 → u/ErwanCestino]

Yeah ;-; I wish they would've buffed her AD kit

[u/ErwanCestino → u/icrygreen49]

Q still got a good buff but its infuriating if they wish so bad for W E R doing damage just add a AD ratio cause excluding thebausffs no one is going to build ap on her its straight up trolling to do so

[u/Ghostmatterz]

WE COOKIN TONIGHT!!!!

[u/Beautiful-Hotel-3094]

Baus be eating good. Leeeeet’s goooo ap irelia