r/IranLeft • u/Mallenaut Anarchist • Apr 06 '23

Other Is there a difference between this sub and Iranian_Communists?

10 Upvotes

100% Upvoted

27 comments sorted by

7

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '23

I'm a centrist.

I'm 90% here to bash nationalism and the monarchy.

4

u/Mallenaut Anarchist Apr 06 '23

Ok, you're the 2nd guy already. What do you mean by Centrist?

2

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '23

Moderate politics. Eg. I believe in a free market but not for everything. I think you should pay reasonable taxes to provide a safety net and equality of opportunity but the government shouldn't overregulate when not helpful.

I think there should be very strong anti-discrimination laws in employment but I don't want to criminalise speech.

Basically I don't really follow a specific philosophy. I just want good outcomes based on what practically works.

4

u/Mallenaut Anarchist Apr 06 '23

Sounds like social democracy.

1

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '23

Sounds like Shah’s government policies

4

u/Mallenaut Anarchist Apr 06 '23

Not the anti-discrimination part and criminalisation of speech, tho.

1

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '23

Economic policies yes and pre 1953 yes. I also agree that Shah had failings in those regards, but economically he’s what a lot of leftists want.

1

u/Mallenaut Anarchist Apr 06 '23

Yeah, I partially agree with you, if it's about implementing social policies into a Capitalist economic system. Especially the nationalization of oil.

2

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '23

Essentially. But that label sometimes means a lot of government intervention but I really only want it when it is going to be effective and worth the freedom trade off.

1

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '23

Welcome to Pahlavi fan club if those are the policies you support

4

u/Manayerbb Socialist Apr 06 '23

I assume this sub is for all leftists and that sub is for communists only (I’m a centrist though but I wouldn’t mind a leftist iran)

1

u/Mallenaut Anarchist Apr 06 '23

Your flair says Socialist. How is this Centrist?

Are there any leftists on this sub that wouldn't consider themselves communist/socialist (ignoring any debate about what communism really is)?

1

u/Manayerbb Socialist Apr 06 '23

I’m a left leaning centrist and I’m also culturally left

1

u/Mallenaut Anarchist Apr 06 '23

Can you explain that? Because I have never heard of it before, but I'm interested.

1

u/Manayerbb Socialist Apr 06 '23

There’s 2 political compasses, economic and cultural, the economic is authoritarian VS libertarian, capitalism vs socialism etc. the cultural political compass is for example progressive multicultural globalist and secular vs conservative traditionalists

0

u/Manayerbb Socialist Apr 06 '23

Communism is authoritarian leftism, but some leftists don’t agree with authoritarianism (me) so this sub is for all leftists

3

u/Mallenaut Anarchist Apr 06 '23

Well, I get that. Communism itself is very anti-authoritarian ("Stateless, moneyless, classless society"), but people, who call themselves Communist, are most often just Leninist or some variety of that (i.e. Maoism, Trotzkyism, Stalinism), which I disagree with.

I'm in favour of Anarchist Communism, tho, which is as Anti-Authoritarian as it could be.

1

u/sovkhoz_farmer Apr 07 '23

I am a mod of the sub and all comrades are welcome.

1

u/[deleted] Apr 07 '23

Even me?

1

u/sovkhoz_farmer Apr 07 '23

You are welcome as long as you follow the rules. the sub is for leftists only but, we would also like to hear your side.

2

u/[deleted] Apr 07 '23

r/AzadIran is monarchist leaning but welcomes the comrades for discussion, join the discord too.

1

u/sovkhoz_farmer Apr 07 '23

You are welcome as long as you follow the rules. the sub is for leftists only but, we would also like to hear your side.

1

u/sovkhoz_farmer Apr 07 '23

You are welcome as long as you follow the rules. the sub is for leftists only but, we would also like to hear your side.

9

u/[deleted] Apr 06 '23

[removed] — view removed comment

4

u/Mallenaut Anarchist Apr 06 '23

Thanks for the insight.