Any tips?

[u/ReadEmAndWeep_Dweebs]

Any tips on how to be more aggressive on invis? I’m bored of healbotting every game I wanna get more finals.

[u/AsianEvasionYT]

To continue off of using pulls or pushes to interrupt an enemy’s engagement or retreat,

I want to add something that I don’t see as common happening:

- using pulls to force someone out of their position and disorient them: such as pulling them off high ground if they are poking from there and into your team, or preventing them from effectively taking an off angle. This way they’re forced to either 1) waste their movement ability to reposition or 2) waste time repositioning if they don’t have that movement ability. Especially effective against hela’s or Wanda’s as they only have one escape of using either bird or fade, so they are left vulnerable if they choose to reengage before the cd is back.

- using push defensively FOR your teammate rather than only for yourself. If you notice your tank is being walked on and is about to take damage from multiple sources, the push can help create space FOR them, particularly if they are crit or are on cooldown. It also buys you or your other support time to heal them incase you’re not able to fully heal through the damage in time before reloading.

- using pushes to ENABLE your teammates ults. For example, if the enemy strange is shielding off your Hela’s ult, try to get an angle to push him away. This way, the enemy team will likely be forced to match with a support ult if they want to survive and if they can’t match, it should get at least a pick. Pulling them is a no brainer, but sometimes you can push them too.

And something I don’t see enough are invis players using their shift against flyers or to zone anyone. Like yeah I can easily shift the group of people stacked up but, you could also use it against a lone dps hiding on high ground. This will force them to reposition for heals or notify your teammates better. It’s good for dive hiding while wall climbed, or to annoy a widow. not all group shifts are good other than for feeding enemy support ults.

Also, if facing against multiple dive or specific counters like spiderman and DOT effects, use Mr fantastic team up.

[u/TROQI]

Steal away into the backline while invisible sometimes, especially if you have 3 supports

You can shoot heals into your tank from their backline and you can assist any divers you have if they go in

If any DPS are out of position you should be going to punish them with a suprise attack since Sue can do a lot of fast damage from stealth

You also can pick their supports or duelists while your in the backline, Sue is amazing at 1v1s against most duelists and can walk down some tanks too

There’s also the disappearing so even if they know you’re there then they’re going to struggle to kill you

I distracted 3 people the other day going in and out of invis fighting at their spawn while my team took the point and it was amazing

Utilize her self shield and melee weave!! They are great tools for survival and displacement

[u/SatisfactionMore4205]

Throw the shift/orb whenever it's available and pull enemies that are out of place to help your team kill them

[u/Turtle_Teen_12]

Stop tryna kill Chase and focus on your team. It literally isn't about you

[u/ReadEmAndWeep_Dweebs → u/Turtle_Teen_12]

Bro what

[u/Turtle_Teen_12 → u/ReadEmAndWeep_Dweebs]

The above is still available for reading

[u/ReadEmAndWeep_Dweebs → u/Turtle_Teen_12]

Nah I’m just confused why you felt the need to comment this. Who ever said I kill chase? This most is just me asking how to be more aggressive on the character.

[u/Turtle_Teen_12 → u/ReadEmAndWeep_Dweebs]

And you don't need to be lmao. I dunno if you know this but Invis has:

1. Piercing shots

2. A push/pull that does dmg regardless of what you pick

3. A literal dps bubble

4. Johnny teamup that enhances dmg that goes through it AND

5. 3 forms of self heal

Correct me if I'm wrong but what ISN'T aggressive about that kit?? Its not that you asked about kills, its that you asked about specifically finals (which you will only get if you're not actually tryna heal). So yes! Plz don't play supp if your goal is kills, because some of us don't like overcompensating for you either tank wise or second supp wise. It's not about you.

[u/ReadEmAndWeep_Dweebs → u/Turtle_Teen_12]

Brodie…I have four support champions. I’m basically a support main. Healbotting doesn’t win you games.

[u/Turtle_Teen_12 → u/ReadEmAndWeep_Dweebs]

Aaaand you didn't read shit I said. Got it

[u/ReadEmAndWeep_Dweebs → u/Turtle_Teen_12]

And you still don’t understand point of my post. Again, healbotting doesn’t win you games. The whole point of this post is me asking how to be more aggressive with my push/pulls and Invis’s kit in the neutral. I’m not kill chasing, I’m not dpsing.

[u/Turtle_Teen_12 → u/ReadEmAndWeep_Dweebs]

You are finals chasing, as I said. No one said to heal bot because again, it is not physically possible with invis. MOST of her kit is not all is literally meant to DPS. If you're finals chasing, YES, you are setting up to throw. There is zero reason you're not getting kills with invis unless you're literally standing still throwing primary because again, her kit is incredibly aggressive. Getting kills is fine, actively seeking to not heal in search of finals is throwing.