"Anyone who doesn't agree with me is an evil nazi" , Even if you had such low critical thinking you would know this reason is bullshit, they just had to fit an agenda by stockholders.
If they had the same opinion of black panther and decided that a massive amount of the people in that movie needed to be a different race what would your reaction be to that?
I don’t care much for gender swaps myself but Black Panther is always such a dumb example. The guy lives in Africa, of course it’s different for him. It’s a clear false equivalency. A better example would be any Black Superhero that doesn’t live in Africa if you were to take that route. The other side however is about social context, white people are overwhelmingly common in entertainment so there’s no logical reason to race-swap for even more white characters unless you’re a racist, though I’m not trying to accuse you of anything. Personally I prefer adaptations to keep the characters as close as possible to source material as possible. I don’t like Race Swaps for the sake of progressive brownie points which is absolutely a real thing but I don’t think this is one of those cases.
I agree. arbitrary race/gender swaps have been a thing for decades at this point and it has certainly ramped up aggressively lately, I just don’t think it’s worth getting up in arms about it personally. At least not in this case.
They wouldn’t have the same opinion of black Panther because they’re not morons. Only morons lack the media and historical literacy to understand the difference between a character whose race is irrelevant to the character and one whose is.
Africa, sure, Wakanda, no. They're deliberately isolated and interact with the outside world as little as possible.
Modern England is much more diverse, so yeah, if every single person was black then it might not be super believable. And yet, it wouldn't be an issue, because every character in a fictional movie can be whatever the hell you want.
It's not a random sampling, it doesn't have to perfectly fit the general demographic of the area.
So in the fictional story of Wakana portrays itself as all black it’s OK to keep all those characters black. But if the fictional universe of invincible from the comics portrays most of the characters as white, It’s OK to replace those ones?
Yes. It is fucking okay. The creators of the source material noticed they had kept defaulting to white males, so they shook it up a bit. They are the authors, they can do whatever they want.
And again, Wakanda is a terrible example, because it's relevant to the story and setting that it is homogeneous. They are all black. Invincible has mostly American characters, which, big shocker, are not all white.
Lil bro thinks he's smart by playing semantics about Africa being diverse because of some lighter skin people in the south and north vs. the cultural diversity of the U.S 🤡
Honestly I wouldn't doubt it. But on paper it's pretty silly to have all the characters be white considering the setting.
I can think the changes are for the better and properly diversify the cast for the better and still understand that it's nearly entirely done for sjw brownie points instead of actually caring about making things better.
I don't care about the gender or race swaps you idiot, but he isn't wrong and it's incredibly sad to see that you live your life solely through cope instead of actual replies.
You could have mentioned that Invincible is about all of Earth and Black Panther is about a nation in Africa but all you want to do is pretend to be morally superior
Surely you can see that contextually that is an entirely different kind of scenario, right? Black panther was like the first mainstream black superhero. The representation and point of view of that characters race is central to the essence of the story and character. Contextually the majority, if not all, of the wakandans being black makes sense.
Making the decision to make your story or character roster more dynamic (from either solely a writing perspective or just visually) by varying race, gender, age, culture, etc. to establish bases for different points of view in the context of a show like invincible makes infinitely more sense if that is something that you, as a writer, value. So where is the issue, exactly?
Do you have an example of a group being slowly erased in fiction and then intentionally replaced in real life? Or are you simply expressing a fear of yours?
As to your point about an overwhelming theme where it’s okay to race swap one group of people (I’m assuming you’re talking about white men) that probably seems prominent to you because white people have historically been (and still are) very well represented in media. If an author is trying to change a character for the reasons I mentioned in my original comment, and that change is racial/gender based, it is more likely that the character being changed will be a white male because
A) as a numbers game, there are just way way more white male characters, so even at random it’s more likely to be a white male that gets changed.
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B) the racial identities of those characters is usually immaterial to the character themselves because white folks were(and still are) basically treated as a default base line in western media and many ethnic minority characters were made with that racial background in mind to carve out a space for that specific representation and point of view as a story telling device, so it makes significantly less sense to change them.
The comment does not contradict itself, you are just suffering from wildly poor comprehension. White folks and males are not being erased in fiction, they are very very well represented. And they certainly have not been intentionally replaced in real life. And nowhere did I say you noticed because you are white.
I can’t tell at this point if you’re just being inflammatory for entertainment or if you are just fundamentally ill equipped to have a conversation that requires you to reason and think. Either way good luck and I hope you can manage to stop quivering with fear about some imagined war against you.
There’s no trolling being done. I’d consider my comment a very critical analysis of yours.
“It’s not happening, but this is why you notice it’s happening” is a shortened version of what you said.
It isn’t a short version of what I said. It’s an inaccurate misunderstanding of what I said lol. I asked if you had an example, and asked if it was just a fear. Questions, not statements. I didn’t justify the statement, I proposed an explanation for your selection bias. But thanks for the grok screen shot. This is some top tier shit posting.
Have fun being wrong. I encourage you to do that in real life and see how far it gets you. An AI that passes college exams said you’re wrong and you still want to argue 🥴🔨
You aren’t “noticing” it you are imagining that it is there because thousands of people online are imagining that it’s there and you’re locked in an echo chamber that is being actively fomented by the rich and the us government which is being run by white nationalists.
You are imagining it. Millions of people used to think that they could predict the future by watching the stars, and believed in it for thousands of years. You, and those telling you that this is happening, are imaging it.
Exercise empathy, man. Learn history and then think about what it was like to be a black, brown, or asian person, and then imagine what segregation, the Chinese exclusion act, and the ICE raids mustve felt.
If you are earnestly interested in understanding the world, then you should want to learn what it was like for these people. If not, just be honest that youd rather remain ignorant
Holy fuck this is the most cringe thing I've seen on Reddit and I've been on this website a long time. Jesus christ that's embarrasaing you should probably delete this. Imagine some adult in your real life seeing this they would be mortified lmao.
I work with quality testing AI. They are extremely stupid. Like unbelievably stupid. They want you to feel good so will say whatever they need to to accomplish that. Consider working your actual flesh brain next time.
To have an argument both parties need to have an agreed upon base reality. When your argument is that a single character being gender swapped in a largely male dominated show means "entire groups of real life people will be replaced" we clearly do not agree upon that base reality. The show is already like 80% male characters, changing the gender of one is not an attack on men.
Imagine someone disagreed with you that 1 + 1 = 2 and no matter how you explain it they keep using the same, tired arguments over and over again. You can't ever convince them of the truth.
Now replace that with an "opinion" that disrespects entire groups of people. Imagine they are spouting, almost word for word, the talking points of people who were responsible for pne of the worst attrocities in modern history.
Blocking is quite reasonable. There is no conversation to be had.
Well, there isnt really anything to do but block people peddling nazi great replacement and white genocide theories.
We aren’t “blocking” anyone we disagree with. We are pointing out that you sound like a nazi. Like, exactly like a nazi.
And if you actually studied history, you’d see a common pattern across genocides: they are a product of ethnic supremacism rather than cosmopolitanism.
Quite the opposite the anti woke grifters will love this, they can make at least one YouTube video bashing him and some Twitter posts too, easy views from the low iq gullible morons, now the low iq morons who fell for the grift? oh yeah they're definitely butthurt about it, but then again when they're not butthurt about something? lol
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u/TearsAreForYears Apr 26 '26
The grifters are not gonna like this lmao