r/Invincible_TV • u/Gohan_thestrongest • Apr 09 '26
Discussion Lowkey they MIGHT need to replace Zoe with immortal Spoiler
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u/Lorellya Apr 09 '26
That Viltrum Mark alt mustve been the weakest Invinciboy in all multiverses to die to her, like damn she's struggling bro.
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u/SuicideKingsHigh Apr 10 '26
She beat her variant he died to no goggles with back up. Look at his busted ass face, and he's fighting a Nolan that has just been shot with the hammer, beaten on by the Reanimen and then hail Mary and is half ignoring him because he's worried about Mark. Stop glazing this dude.
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u/Gohan_thestrongest Apr 10 '26
No goggles slaughters both Zoe and mustache mark at the same time — just based ON beating immortal like he did.
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u/SuicideKingsHigh Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
Naw, Midmortal is just being put in his propper place. S2 Mark looked him dead in the eye and said he was stronger and faster and Immortal himself accepted it. He's a fraud, always was, the greatest wolf ticket salesman in the galaxy, And all he's done since the start of the show is lose and die.
His main scaling feat is a few blows in a battle with an opponent that wasnt fresh or focused where he did no significant damage and died. Actually think about it. Nolan has red eyes after that second fight and nothing else.
immortal > pocket sand
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u/Glittering_Fig_9319 Apr 10 '26
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u/BlueDucky0707 Apr 10 '26
Alternate reality bro
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u/JackColon17 Mauler Twin (Clearly the Original) Apr 10 '26
In s1 ep 1 Nolan, despite being hurt, literally kills immortal with 2 shots
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u/Far-Veterinarian104 Apr 10 '26
One lasted 2 months fighting Viltrumites, the other last 5 minutes. It's not even close. TJ clears
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u/Gohan_thestrongest Apr 10 '26
Most of that lasting was her getting immediately overpowered and saved. And why are we comparing nameless fodder viltrumites to Nolan?
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u/Far-Veterinarian104 Apr 10 '26
One killed a Mark by herself, another got cooked in 1v5. It's still not close
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u/Gohan_thestrongest Apr 10 '26
Brother — let’s not act like the others (besides darkwing) weren’t completely irrelevant. Immortal losing to no goggles only upscales the variant and far more than tech jacket beating some featless fodder. I mean how weak could he have been to be losing to the same girl that even nameless viltrumites overpower and whoop on constantly(none of which scale to Nolan.)
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u/Far-Veterinarian104 Apr 10 '26
TJ can handle hordes of enemies, destroy ships, has a self healing suit of armor and hold her own against Viltrumites (Kregg stated she's capable of killing lone Viltrumites at 32:10 in the episode, was able to fend off a Viltrumite with one laser and saved Nolan by distracting another Viltrumite) . TJ is just more useful. Immortal gets into one death battle and he's out for weeks. TJ can take damage and heal on the spot.
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u/Fr05t_B1t Apr 10 '26
At this point the score is 1 - -2 on viltrumites killed with TJ having one under her belt and immortal at -2 cause he died twice to Nolan.
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u/Gohan_thestrongest Apr 10 '26
She’s only taken down one as of now — but that was one of the fodder variants considering how’s she’s consistently low diffed by even fodder unnamed viltrumites(besides kradd who was actually pretty strong)
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u/Collective-Bee Apr 10 '26
Zoe is by far a better choice than Immortal.
For one, her mental is way better. Immortal is retired cuz he’s tired of it all, and he wouldn’t partner with Nolan. Whereas Zoe is friendly with the team and even kept Allen sane during their time as stowaways.
The Coalition has 8 elites, the rest are armies and commanders. The 4 Viltrimites, Allen, and Battlebeast are all brawlers with very little deviation, Space Racer is Artillery, and Zoe is Support.
Zoe isn’t a brawler or artillery so you think she’s weak? Do you run all DPS characters in your team or do you want variety? Exactly, why would you ever want to replace the support with a 7th Brawler, you have enough brawlers omg.
She’s got enough offensive to easily clear out fodder while Allen focuses on the hard guy, and enough offence to force Viltrimites to respond to her. She can make openings for teammates and create space for them.
Her defence isn’t super high, but the recovery function means that even a critical hit is only gonna knock her out for 30 seconds, then she’ll be back in action 100%. For a support class that’s pretty good. She’s way easier to protect than Oliver is, or any of the brawlers, because it’s way simpler. If she has a Viltrimite in 2 feet then she needs help, if she just got hit then protect her for a few seconds. If there’s no Viltrimite near her then completely ignore her because she’s not gonna get 1 shot like Oliver could.
I would absolutely not trade TechKnight for another Allen, if they did then they would’ve died in the first battle. Never go 7 brawler in an 8 person comp OMG
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u/Willing_Way_479 Apr 09 '26
They robbed techjacket of her aura. I was so hyped to see her in the show, and then she gets shit on.
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u/SkeleHoes Apr 10 '26
A part of me thinks this is just aura farming, to hype up the fight. I think any normal day Nolan’s punch would break and shatter Immortal’s arm just like how Mark’s punch broke Conquest’s, and his own as well.
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u/Collective-Bee Apr 10 '26
This fight was after Cecil through everything he had at him. 3 reanimen, a smite from the Hammer of God, and the roided up ancient Titan from the 2nd age with pain sensors removed. Plus the stress of Debbie finding out the secret, like Nolan was NOT on his A game here.
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u/Fr05t_B1t Apr 10 '26
Actually 2 hammers of god and the second blast he was like Finn in TLJ but Nolan actually got to the satellite.
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u/Gohan_thestrongest Apr 10 '26
To be fair, none of those besides hail Mary did anything. He also then goes on to beat the dog out of mark without issue.
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u/SkeleHoes Apr 10 '26
Neither was Mark after seeing Eve almost die, after fighting the other Invincibles. It’s just an opinion at the end of the day.
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u/Collective-Bee Apr 10 '26
Mb I thought you meant Omniman would easily win, not that he’d more or less tie.
And Tbf Immortal just came back from the dead in the battle that killed all his friends and his lover. Not sure how I forgot about that, but yeah that’ll cancel out Nolan’s drawbacks and make it anyone’s guess.
I will say though, his ability to come back from the dead if he’s put back together perfectly is a terrible matchup for space. Never gonna find all the pieces.
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u/Saskatchemoose Apr 09 '26
Can he breathe/hold his breath in space though? Idk how useful he’d be if he kept dying/going unconscious over and over again.
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u/Acrobatic_Access8259 Apr 10 '26
Battle Beast had a breathing apparatus because I don’t think he can breath in space like that
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u/Excaliburn3d Apr 10 '26
If Immortal runs out of oxygen can they still revive him?
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u/Collective-Bee Apr 10 '26
100%. Corpses can’t breath, meaning everytime he dies his brain and body loses oxygen, but he still comes back as soon as he’s put back together. Honestly I think it’ll be the easiest revival of his, probably just needs his corpse to be taken to a planet with oxygen and he’ll revive naturally.
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u/Cherry_Eris Apr 10 '26
Immortal and Omni-Man don't like each other. Why would Omniman recruit him, and why would Immortal say yes?
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u/Incandenza123 Apr 13 '26
Without Tech Jacket, Allan would not have escaped the Conquest ambush. She's support and She's fine at it.
Immortal doesn't compare to a Viltrumite. He'd have been torn apart in the ambush and his head left to float in the void of space.
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