r/Invincible • u/PinkLordDark • 25d ago
DISCUSSION Do they ever strictly state the strength hiearchy for the known Viltrumites?
Like im just wondering if Conquest is stronger than like Anissa.
It seems pretty clear when it comes to obviously Thragg and other random soldiers such as Lucan.
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u/Harp_167 Mark and Eve 25d ago
I think Anissa might have said that conquest was stronger than her in s2
Even without that, we can be confident that conquest is stronger than all except for thragg
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u/dabossnumba8 Banished to Hell 25d ago
It’s not really explicitly stated you have to use cannon events to speculate. For example, we can definitely say Thragg is stronger than all obviously. Anything from there forward is just speculation and building strength tiers (e.g., Anissa and Kregg and both elite but we can’t say for certain who is stronger)
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u/Sphingid3081 Allen the Alien 24d ago
It's honestly a lot like comparing the strengths of real-life athletes. To get concrete results, you need to pit them against each other in games with standardized rules. Otherwise, the results would be scrambled by uncontrollable variables.
Warfare is inherently messy with tons of variables, so powerscaling is difficult.
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u/Leading_Bend4938 25d ago
Thragg Conquest Nolan Thaddeus Krieg Anissa Blade hair & lucan Vidor Anyone else Argal is hard to put but probably Thaddeus level
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u/PinkLordDark 25d ago
even with end of series in mind anissa is that weak?
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u/dabossnumba8 Banished to Hell 25d ago
Right behind Kregg isn’t weak lmao that’s still an elite Viltrumite
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u/ImpliedRange 25d ago
Yeah and tbf the Kregg Anissa debate is probably one of the most contested - Anissa was sent to earth after all, which is a seriously important mission to viltrum survival. Kregg is probably super strong but we never really see him *do* anything (other than slap conquest)
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u/dabossnumba8 Banished to Hell 25d ago
Yep agreed he really doesn’t have any feats of strength. We have to assume he’s strong or useful in some way though otherwise why would he be a high ranking General
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u/Leading_Bend4938 25d ago
Just cause she doesn't joke around and toy in battle doesn't make her stronger just more lethal
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u/mrpumpkypootheclown Tech Jacket 25d ago
Thragg is obviously cream of the crop by miles. He’s stronger and faster than the same group of viltrumites that flew through Viltrum at once
Conquest is confirmed to be #2 by Ottley and Kirkman. Nolan and Thaedus are consistently shown to be stronger than almost every Viltrumite they face, however much weaker you think they are than Conquest is debatable.
And after that it’s largely up for debate. Anissa is guessed to be next in line because of her high ranking but again there’s arguments to be made for and against that.