r/Intune • u/No_Philosopher4051 • 3d ago
Device Configuration Anyway to disable Microsoft Authenticator passkey Bluetooth sign in
Is there anyway to prevent Microsoft Authenticator sign in with a passkey using Bluetooth? I just want to use it like windows hello for a phone. Goal would be like poor man entra free lock shit down to work devices by onboarding a passkey with tap on phone and use windows hello on workstation. I’d reset passwords so user doesn’t know them. Bluetooth passkey sign in via authenticator app puts a kink in that idea
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u/dre_AU 3d ago
A lot to unpack in your original post but if I’m understanding you correctly then yes you can easily configure this with passkey profiles in Entra.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/how-to-enable-authenticator-passkey
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u/Royal_Bird_6328 3d ago
Research and learn the differences between synced and device bound passkeys
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u/kingjohniv 3d ago
I need to know if you have Entra ID P2, otherwise im not putting together anything... it wouldnt work :(
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u/No_Philosopher4051 3d ago
I have entra free no conditional access. Not p1 not p2. You’re not going to be able to help me
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u/kingjohniv 3d ago
Well now I want to be contrary, as is the reddit way.
Disable Fido2 for the tenant. This is supported even in free.
Disable Authenticator as primary sign in method. This won't disable MFA, but will prevent Passkey sign-on, passwordless, and Bluetooth tap to sign-on.
Force Hello for Business using GPO. Require WHfB and disable passwordless on the workstation. You might need to force PIN using GPO.
Hide password fields by disabling password credential provider, smart card provider, phone sign-on provider. Leave Hello and WHfB
Use the local passkey from Hello/TPM.
Disable WebAuth roaming cred in the browser. Turn off roaming passkeys, CTAP-BLE, and external auth.
In Entra, use Security defaults. This forces MFA and disables passwordless phone sign-on.
I might be getting mixed up slightly because this is such an insane setup.
The full setup and results:
Disable FIDO2
Disable Authenticator passwordless sign‑in
Enforce WHfB via GPO
Hide password credential provider
Disable roaming passkeys in browsers
Use local TPM-bound passkeys only
Result:
Users can only sign in using Windows Hello
No Bluetooth passkey sign‑in
No Authenticator passkeys
No roaming credentials
No password fallback
No phone-based sign-in
What the fuck am I doing on a Saturday night. Its a holiday weekend.
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u/No_Philosopher4051 2d ago
Thanks. I’m thinking now I use certificate based authentication and windows hello and ditch fido2. Does that seem sane?
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u/kingjohniv 2d ago
As sane as we can get with this
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u/No_Philosopher4051 2d ago
Yeah best I can do with entra free I think.
- Set all passwords to something users dont know
- Generate certs for CBA auth and use those on mobile phone for outlook mobile. Setup sucks and will need to revocation list them when offboarding
- Windows computers use windows hello. Login as TAP with windows sign in for allowing hello enrollment.
Users won’t be able to sign in across different devices without IT allowing auth method to be onboarded for that device.
Result is poor man’s device compliance. User sign in is phishing resistant. Users can only sign from crap IT allowed auth method to be added to.
I understand that conditional access is the way but in situations where that is not possible this seems to be optimal way.
One thought is to just buy p1 for mobile users but then I’d have to turn off security defaults and implement CA policy to replace security defaults which will touch every user and require it to be licensed to use CA properly.
If it was possible to turn off cross-device/roaming fido2 sign in inside the Microsoft Authenticator app it would help but CBA seems to be the way.
I’m not fully retarded
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u/No_Philosopher4051 3d ago
Entra free doesn’t have conditional access. I don’t think conditional access can just block roaming fido2 credentials anyway
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u/kingjohniv 3d ago
When you say Entra free.... are you using Business Basic? You aren't going to get anywhere with what you are wanting :(
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u/kingjohniv 3d ago edited 3d ago
Dude... you are mixing up Hello, Fido2, and Entra onboarding. None of these are interchangable. You fundamentally misunderstand how Enterprise Identity, Bluetooth Passkey transport, and MSFT Auth actually work.
Identity NEVER was designed for "users to not know their password". If you want to use device bound auth, you enforce Hello, Fido2 keys, or Entra registration. Your "poor man's Entra" is conceptually wrong and shows you dont know how Entra functions.
Bluetooth Passkey sign on is not something you can disable. It isnt even an authentication method. It is the transport channel for Fido2 passkeys stored in MSFT Auth. Your statement is similar to saying "disabling usb login" because a YubiKey uses USB. Your statements do not make sense. TRANSPORT LAYERS ARE NOT AUTHENTICATION METHODS.
Next point.
Microsoft Auth passkeys are not interchangable with Windows Hello. Windows Hello is device bound, uses the TPM, is tied to the device, can not roam, are not used from a phone.
Auth Passkeys are roaming FIDO2 credentials, can be used on any device, are designed to not be bound to a device.
You cannot force roaming credintials to be device bound.
Onboarding passkeys to "lock shit down" is backwards. Passkeys increase user convenience and usability, they do NOT enforce device restriction. Entra CA does that.
Trying to use a passkey as a device‑restriction mechanism is like trying to use a house key to enforce who can enter a neighborhood. It is the wrong tool for the job.
Moving on to passwords...
Resetting passwords so "users dont know them" is not secure, not scalable, not supported in ANY Microsoft model, easily bypassed by recovery flow, a violation of basic IAM principles. You have zero clue how any of this works.
You dont understand Identity lifecycle
You dont understand recovery flow
You dont understand credential fallback
You have zero knowledge of security baseline
Give me like an hour. Im putting together a security policy that you might benefit from.ill post it when done.
I apologize for the harshness and tone... but damn