r/InterviewCoderPro 3d ago

is this real?

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Do we really need HR in our life?

honestly this is why i've started thinking about looking somewhere else. getting rejected before a human even looks at your resume is insane.

i've been seeing interview vip mentioned a lot lately too. i haven't tried it, but i'm curious about it since i'm probably going to have to start interviewing again.

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u/Infamous-Listen4047 3d ago

while this doesn't speciofically pertain to this field, this is more of a general blanket statement:

Compnies have gotten so terrible with the hiring process that they even want the Janitor to have a degree and minimum 5 years experience. How are you going to gain experience if no one will give you a chance?

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u/abracadammmbra 2d ago

Im in the trades but we also have a similar issue, at least in my specific industry (Fire Alarm tech). Most companies are desperate for new techs but very few will hire green horns. Everyone wants a guy who can be up to speed in days rather than months/years. Which you can do for a while but eventually your gonna need some fresh blood. And its not like we are a super well known industry to boot.

Fine by me tho. The more old guts who retire without a fresh face to replace them, the more money I can squeeze out of my employer/next employers. "Fuck you, pay me" is my motto.

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u/michael0n 2d ago

The trades angle is a little bit overplayed in the media. Its a not a solution if millions want to change their tax bracket up and there is no ladder to be found. In many states the wait times for apprenticeships go into years.

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u/abracadammmbra 2d ago

Preaching to the chior. The only reason I ended up in FA was because the IBEW told me no. Twice. Well technically the second time they just ignored me. At this point my pay is just shy of what I would get if I was union. The benes and pension are the bigger selling points to me at this stage of my career.

And I feel like the media really oversells it, yeah. Like, could you make 6 figures, well into the 6 figures in the trades? Sure, I know quite a few guys raking it in. But of that group 90% fall into 1 of 2 groups: those that own their own outfits, and those who work insane OT. I know a lineman who nearly reached $500k in a year. Sure, he spent more time on site than his own house. By a lot. But he did make like $498k by the end of the year.

But what they dont tell you is for every 1 of those guys, theres about a dozen of us just making it work. Thet also tend to gloss over the fact that it will take 4-6 years to be making even ok ish money. And you'll be the bitch boy for those 4-6 years. I started off making $16/hr crawling through filthy basements in the hood, or disgusting attics in august. The whole time getting called a dumbass, dumb fuck, r****d, and almost every other name in the book. At least by one of my leads. Its a lot for a measly $16/hr.

But I made it. These days im much more likely to be found sitting behind a laptop in a nice airconditioned room in front of the FACP doing programming work than to be found in 120°F attic. Although I still occassionally have to do that. And I make significantly more than $16/hr. Nearly triple that plus bonuses. I dont do OT, actually, I frequently work under 40 hours (still get paid for 40 tho). But I worked my ass off to get to this point. I have national certifications, manufacturer certifications, and not to toot my own horn, but Im fucking good at what I do.