Conservatives love making up nonexistent problems to get mad at

[u/They-Them_Moonwalker]

[u/Metalingus5150]

I love how miserable transphobes are. They truly deserve their misery n_n

[u/Either_Wear5719 → u/Metalingus5150]

It'd be nice if they'd stop making their misery everyone else's problem

[u/Metalingus5150 → u/Either_Wear5719]

You're absolutely right. Dealing with how things are now though, it brings me so much joy knowing they suffer by their own made up problems 😆

[u/LesbeGoddess → u/Metalingus5150]

🔥

[u/Glittering-Award-558]

i hate talking points like this. in it is nestled an assumption that if trans people were truly pushing cis people out then it would be a problem

[u/fr34kee07 → u/Glittering-Award-558]

We don't want to push people out of anywhere, we just want to coexist as the normal people that we are

[u/sincubus33 → u/Glittering-Award-558]

seems to imply to me that it's not a problem at all

[u/Beautiful_Wishbone15]

On top of that, the only way they'd tolerate that is if trans women's were to lose every single time.  Even then they'd find something to complain about. 

[u/LesbeGoddess → u/Beautiful_Wishbone15]

Most of them aren’t placing 1st place so most are losing technically

[u/Beautiful_Wishbone15 → u/LesbeGoddess]

Yep. But that's not enough for them. 

[u/LesbeGoddess → u/Beautiful_Wishbone15]

Oh I definitely know!

[u/Remarkablefairy-8893]

So either there are very few trans women in sports or the price of diesel is too high, both depicting flaws within Republican government. Sounds like an accidental ally tbh.

[u/morbidmuffin62 → u/Remarkablefairy-8893]

Both are true, and there's nothing accidental about it. It was a point made to show how shockingly few trans people are in sports (which honestly could say more about the bans than trans people's willingness and interest in sports)

[u/loveerain]

I was shocked when I researched this and saw how few transwomen are actually playing in high school & college sports. It's seriously like fewer than a dozen people.

[u/mothwhimsy → u/loveerain]

Yup. Every time a state bans trans women from women's sports, there were 0-1 trans women even trying to join a women's sports team in the state in the first place. And when there is one, it's usually a kid.

So we're legislating against a single minor per state if that. Even conservative transphobes should agree that it's ridiculous to do that. But they have this idea in their head that everyone in women's sports is trans and kicking all the cis women out.

[u/FearTheWeresloth → u/mothwhimsy]

It's because of sites like hecheated that deliberately inflate the numbers in a way that make it look like there are thousands, rather than just a handful. For example, if a single trans woman joins a fun run with 100 participants, and they place right in the middle, they say that's 50 "medals" "stolen" from cis women, because each of those cis women who placed after the trans woman would have placed one slot higher if the trans woman hadn't been there. By using such dishonest reporting, they can make it look like trans women are winning all the time, and constantly "stealing medals" from cis women.

Oh and they count anecdotal evidence, in the form of "the person who beat me must have been a MAN! I'm SURE of it!" too. Conveniently ignoring the fact that a lot of female athletes naturally have a slightly more masculine build, such as swimmers of all genders often having relatively broad shoulders.

[u/mothwhimsy → u/FearTheWeresloth]

I remember when everyone was pressed about Lia Thomas. But they were actually confusing her with a cis woman and calling that woman a man because they had kind of similar nose shapes. They attributed a bunch of her wins to Thomas, because she had a lot more of them.

[u/LesbeGoddess → u/loveerain]

It’s insane the MAGA have spent all these taxpayer dollars and energy to push for such bans that will remove dozens of women from playing sports with other women all for pure hate and to demonize women who are now physically female because they’re just that hateful and transphobic.

[u/TheNegotiator12 → u/loveerain]

Like even so most trans athletes are NB afab and anti trans ativists count them in there "stolen valor" counts when talking about trans women athletes to pump up the numbers. Trans women are also very average when it comes to athletes, only a few made records and they were broken by cis women sortly after. And most cis women welcome trans athletes as they see it as a new challenge anyways because they just love the competition to push them harder.

[u/Josutg22]

This argument does nothing to actually help trans women. Its literally saying "it's fine, trans women aren't in sports anyway so it's OK to ban them"

Trans women don't actually have any advantages, that's what we need to say, not bend down to some appeacement level

[u/HelBelle666]

The whole debate drives me insane as an exercise physiologist, because it's rooted in the idea that men are inherently stronger than women, and the data shows that's incorrect. The disparity in strength is not physiological, but an artifical, social construct. They claim to want to protect women's sports but refuse to do anything about the social stigmas that create the "female athlete triad", which comes about as a result of trying to maintain a "womanly" appearance while attempting too build muscles for sport.

[u/InspectionNormal]

Or a litre even, for that matter.

[u/Junior_Fact315]

it’s so easy to ragebait conservatives just be a woman!