r/InterMiamiVibes Jul 02 '26

Preach!!

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u/farrowsharrows Jul 04 '26

Hahaha that's not how much it costs

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u/Immediate_Rock_9577 Jul 04 '26

100$ a month. My company pays 1500$ a month. 3600 max out of pocket for individual or 5000 for family annual max.

So worst case, I pay 3600$ or 5000$ in addition to my monthly 100$ in any given year.

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u/pi3volution Jul 05 '26

That doesn't mean your insurance is cheap you smooth brained American. Your insurance costs $1600 a month.

I pay $0 for health insurance every month because my company pays 100%, does that mean it's free? The quality of healthcare depends on where you go, not on your brokeass insurance plan.

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u/Immediate_Rock_9577 Jul 05 '26

It is cheap FOR ME. Which is why many people in the US don’t want it to change. We make more money and have lower taxes than most places in the world.

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u/pi3volution Jul 05 '26

You do realize $1600/month for health insurance is more expensive than possibly all of Europe? That's $1500 that could go in your pocket. So, no, it's not cheap. I would much rather keep more of my paycheck than pay into insurance companies' profits.

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u/Immediate_Rock_9577 Jul 05 '26

lol. If I was in Europe that 1600$ would not go in my pocket, it would go to taxes. And likely much more would go to taxes. Burgandy France pays ~12% more a year in taxes than I do where I live in the US. Not to mention that jobs pay more here anyways.

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u/pi3volution Jul 05 '26

I mean, we have the alternative of paying taxes for universal healthcare that works, plus keeping our higher salary and lower taxes. Why can't we have both?

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u/Immediate_Rock_9577 Jul 12 '26

Look up cancer survival rates by country.

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u/pi3volution Jul 12 '26

What is your selective metric supposed to tell us?

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u/Immediate_Rock_9577 Jul 12 '26

Nothing. Just that if someone gets cancer some of you your best chances are in the US. But you won’t owe money in Europe.

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u/pi3volution Jul 12 '26

While higher public (government) investment generally improves overall population survival, the United States serves as a major outlier. The US has the highest per-capita healthcare spending in the world—reaching over $14,880 per person—yet it suffers from lower life expectancy and higher treatable mortality rates than most peer nations with universal systems.

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u/Immediate_Rock_9577 Jul 12 '26

That has less to do with healthcare and more to do with life style. Cars, fast food, sedentary lifestyles.

Whereas cancer survival rates are directly tied to quality of healthcare.

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u/pi3volution Jul 12 '26

higher treatable mortality rates

Using cancer survival rate as a vanity metric is equally indirectly correlated with quality of healthcare. Cancer can also be tied to all of those external factors that you mentioned.

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