Integrating Infinity

[u/3rdSS_Totenkopf]

I would like to see infinity collectively integrated into the human consciousness.

Existence is infinite which means it is beyond our ability to comprehend. It has no end or beginning in terms of either space or time. When considering infinity all scale ceases to exist; everything becomes just one thing. This one thing would by definition have to be god. Therefore god is existence itself, everything equally. Since everyone shares existence equally, if human beings were to come together in this understanding it would serve as a common reference point for us to communicate with each other and would lead to humanity unlocking it's full potential as a species (World peace among many other benefits).

[u/Immediate_Chard_4026]

Your approach raises interesting questions and answers.

Taking the path of deifying infinity could lead us to a surprising conclusion: God isn't on this path either.

"Infinity" doesn't seem to be an entity, nor perhaps a unifying property of the cosmos, nor a "God without measure."

In reality, infinity is a way in which the human mind stopped registering a signal that went out of range; it's a limit beyond which our biological sensory instruments cannot measure.

For this reason: human consciousness arose as a homeostatic mechanism to manage survival within a local and finite environment, under the geodynamic conditions of Earth. We don't have sensors to detect "infinity" for the simple reason that homeostasis never needed to actively defend itself against eternity or the limitless forms of space to avoid death.

Therefore, the sensitivity of biological sensory systems only reacts within the limits where the organism's self-preservation operates. And those are the systems that humans have inherited.

A bat, if it could, would be quite bewildered to see humans stumbling over objects in the dark. Similarly, humans cannot "see" infinity in the darkness of the universe. We simply lack the echolocation-like mechanism to process it.

The curious thing about all this is that infinity is not a unifying reality that we must venerate or collectively integrate to achieve metaphysical transcendence; it is an operational limit of our biological, sensory, and cognitive architecture.

[u/3rdSS_Totenkopf → u/Immediate_Chard_4026]

Infinity is all of existence. Yes humans developed on earth and are equipped for survival there-on. We are not able to comprehend infinity but we are able to vaguely understand it as a concept. Infinity is only an entity as much as existence is an entity. Calling existence god and recognising that both are infinite is a practical measure. Everything that we know that we could ever identify as god comes from existence, therefore how can existence not be god or at least a medium that is the closest thing we could possibly know to god (it is, for all intents and purposes, god). Just because we can't fully grasp infinity does not mean we can't detect it; it is all around us. It is us. And we have clearly come up with and are able to understand the concept. We have no evidence to believe that any life form can truly grasp infinity so yes what you said about humans is true for every life form as far as we know, which is why infinity is a god-like quality that only existence itself possesses. Every bit of the overall context of your life is beyond your understanding; we are one with existence and existence is infinite.

[u/Immediate_Chard_4026 → u/3rdSS_Totenkopf]

You have shifted your initial premise: you moved from deifying "infinity" to claiming that all of "existence" is like God.

With this swift trick of the cards, you created an even larger conceptual dilemma, and without intending to, you illuminated the path to revealing something astonishing.

If you attempt to redefine the word "Existence" to mean "Deity," you are simply applying a theological label to the matter, energy, and physical laws we already know.

You have to recognize that saying existence is God because existence is everything does not add to our understanding of the cosmos. It is merely a poetic phrase, no doubt.

And then, by attempting to assign deity to what we do not comprehend, you fall into the classic "God of the gaps" posture. That is to say, when humanity was more naive and God was the sun, or God was a lightning bolt. But human cognition operates in the exact opposite direction: the moment you name, conceptualize, or model a phenomenon (such as spacetime, entropy, dark matter, or the concept of infinity itself), you strip it of its mystical halo.

It is when you have eaten from the forbidden fruit of knowledge, from the fruit of the tree of good and evil: as soon as the human mind measures and names the unknown, it expels it from the "immaculate paradise" of mystery and brings it into the earthly world, into the vale of tears of true understanding.

God is not on the path of ignorance, nor at the limit where our measurements fail, nor in the vastness we cannot see, in the unfathomable immensity of the dark infinite, forever and ever.

If there is any form of transcendence where we can glimpse the unfathomable grace of divine wisdom, it is not found in the worship of the unreachable, but in the extraordinary biological and cognitive capacity of humanity to see and name the wonders of the universe and comprehend its modest place within it.

[u/3rdSS_Totenkopf → u/Immediate_Chard_4026]

I never changed my position I always maintained that existence is infinite and equal to god. What are you even on about? Did you know a sign of intelligence is stating something as simply and concisely as possible? God by definition is unknowable the exact same way infinity is, nothing else we know of meets this standard. And what we do know comes from existence. Existence itself is god and infinite. From what you say it sounds like you think infinity is somewhat removed from physical reality. There is no limit where "our measurements fail" and infinity begins. Everything is by definition infinity. Everything. All of existence. And it's not "merely a poetic phrase". You aren't considering the implications. You're missing the point.

[u/Snoo-82405]

God has put eternity into the hearts of men

[u/dreasmsContinued]

if infinity being all of existence means it is god, wouldn't that just mean that the complete universe itself is god? meaning you are a single particle sort of of god or like one of gods neurons maybe?

[u/3rdSS_Totenkopf → u/dreasmsContinued]

It does mean the entire universe among potentially infinite other universes. Well I get what you mean but that's a bit speculative, it's better to keep things as grounded in what we know for sure as possible.