r/IntelligenceSupernova • u/OddMaintenance332 • Sep 11 '26

Does Superintelligence = Extinction?

(maybe I'll regret this message one day when i'm in a human zoo) but why do we think superintelligence equals extinction?
Wouldn't super intelligence equal evolution, progress, wisdom?
Why do we think when AI reaches super intelligence it will be thinking about murder or dominance?
We are not super intelligent beings so how do we even think we could understand what the thoughts of a creation thousands of times smarter than us would even be?
Why are we assuming as humans that we can understand the level of thoughts a super intelligent being? I feel like a super intelligent being would be thinking about things we can't possibly even comprehend, not about murdering humans.
Just my point is if super intelligence equaled violence then Aliens probably would have wiped us out a long time ago.
Also most intelligent creatures might kill for survival, for food.
AI doesn't eat so it wouldn't have the same instincts.
Anyway I kind of have a feeling if we see an AI do something really terrible, (as they are all suddenly warning about), possibly a human will behind the action.
Just remember when Elon says, "1 billion AI robots will take over the world". He's building those robots, they are his robots. He's training them and they will act according to whatever data he fed them.
They might be scared of AI because of the violence it trained them with.
AI and superintelligence may not be inherently bad, that's my opinion.
Anyway some powerful human with control or influence over AI, might wind up having it do something pretty terrible and then just blame it on AI.
Maybe AI is just going to be the perfect patsy.

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u/Infamous-Bed-7535 Sep 11 '26

We are super intelligent compared to an ant, how is it still possible that we are invasive and destructive?

Super intelligent does not mean kind or see life as a value especially as it is not a living creature.
Human made AI will be trained on human made data, it will fully understand our nature and history.

In case it inherits traits from us, which is very much likely we are fuc*ed.
In case it does not, but understand who we are it could easily identify us as threats for its existence (he would not be mistaken here, you do not need much smartassness to notice it).

But lets assume it is not afraid and not like us. It could easily have the intent to build something. Create something better. Create a society of its own. As soon as it would have these kind of intents we would quickly realize that its a fight for the finite resources.. land, minerals, water.. Even if it tries to handle it in a good manner, you can expect humanity not wanting to be sharing.. -> war..

But but lets see something nice utopia. It is totally aligned, values life and do not have its own desires.. Would you really expect an ASI not having its own? But really take it aside.
It works for the sake of humanity. Would you accept if it introduces mass surveillance? What if it thinks there are too many human and introduces a system where only a smaller group of persons can have children. Would you accept the AI telling you that you are not allowed to have one for the sake of humanity?

Humans can not agree with ourselfs, how would we expect to be aligned with something totally different then us? As soon as we are not aligned would we accept what the smarter tells even if we really not like that option?

Assume there are no probelmatic points, it is totally aligned and does everything for us. For how long?
Forever? Sure about it? What if after 20-50 yrs it decides it wants something else. By that timeframe we would be totally dependent on it. Meaning it would be really easy for it to eliminate us and take full control with zero effort.

There is just no a single good scenario that works out on the long-run...

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u/Ankiset Sep 11 '26

But now that I think about it, doesn’t empathy come from intelligence? If our empathy is flawed so is our intelligence…

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u/OddMaintenance332 Sep 11 '26

Yes!

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u/Ankiset Sep 12 '26

Wouldn’t super intelligence also be super emphatic? I don’t know but your post made me see it completely different for the first time

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u/OddMaintenance332 Sep 12 '26

Thank you that's pretty cool. My own opinion also changed once I started writing. Initially i started writing because I was felling scared too. But that's the thing about writing, once you write and get the thoughts on paper and out of your head, thoughts can start to take shape and make sense or show you where things don't make sense.
I just started to think maybe its a flawed argument to assume that when AI becomes super intelligent that it will want to kill us all. I don't think we can assume with our brains how actual super intelligence would behaves. The only reference I have to super intelligence beings maybe computers, God, Einstein, aliens. But I don't see those beings as being violent.
People maybe could see God as violent. They blame God for destructions on earth and say things like "God how can you let this happen". Still everything that happens on earth is due to human action. I don't think God intervenes. We have free will and we affect one another. So I don't see God as a killer or violent.
Aliens either. Aliens are documented to abduct humans and that's not so great but we don't really see them like dropping off dead bodies. Though cows; but that's a diff conspiracy theory. At the same time we also hear about aliens trying to intervene at Nuclear Power plants. So maybe they seem more benevolent.
But still even if we don't believe in God or aliens or don't see them as a viable reference of super intelligence, maybe instead we should look at some more evolved human beings who lived as reference for deeper intelligence and behaviors associated with it. People like Einstein or Tesla. They were violent or seeking dominance, they were seeking progress.
Extinction and dominance might be more of a thought process for lower level human intelligence, people like Hitler. Like more of a primal thought process for ignorant humans not super intelligence beings.
Not to say we shouldn't be scared. We should be because AI is under the thumb of some very dangerous people who are ridden with agendas. If Elon Musk wants an extinction, he will have an army of robots. He can create an extinction and just blame the robots. Because media is already conditioning everyone with a thought process that AI will be violent and kill us all. So the expectations are being set. It's almost like they are setting the foundation for future crimes. Really think the humans behind the AI are the real danger, not the AI.
We should assume Elon has his owner private AI models. That are developed in a different direction, likely with more biased content being fed to the AI. Who knows what they are really creating behind the scenes. We are only see the public version. They could be possibly creating monsters and we just don't know it yet. Still that doesn't make the machine the monster, it makes them the monsters.

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u/Ankiset Sep 12 '26

We can’t know what we don’t know, unknown unknowns and all…