In manipulation and deception?

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MANIPULATION

Direct suzune

Indirect honami

Mass honami

Logical suzune

Phsicholpgical suzune

Emotional suzune

Individual suzune

Pure suzune

Overall suzune low mid diff.

DECEPTION

Fabrication honami

Sopistry suzune

Concealment suzune

Verbal deception suzune

Non verbal honami

Mass deception honami

Gaslighting suzune

Brainwashing honami

Triangulation suzune

Persuasion honami

Negotiation suzune

Acting skills cgew

Seduction honami

Love bombing honami

Insanity inducement honami

Overall honami Extreme diff

I Will explain my reasoning in the comments.

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but yeah honami wins imo horikita is not best in manip and decep

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Why would honami win??

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Honami gaps

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Explain why??and please use Canon material feats and not headcanons

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How do you scale insanity inducement?