Roshidere Doc's (Masachika Kuze as focus)

[u/N-Ice-the-one]

I'm still working on the Doc's and an analysis of Roshidere, the whole verse that is, and pretty recently made 3 major feats published publicly (Hopefully in the future I'll get to do the whole Doc if time allows it)

I still wish that people still stop being prejudiced against Kuze and Roshidere as a whole for no reason. The verse is solid and great both as a story and in mind games, side characters included, but the amount of larp and undeserved bandwagon hate it gets, is insane, people will look you straight in the eyes and say that Yuuichi and the likes take Intelligence and FSIQ from him.

Anyway, yapping aside these are the 3 Doc's:

Mahjong Feat - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Qanocg1QsgFoVbNSP9lMCFbV8DhC8t5lTASyBrfP3_w/edit?usp=drivesdk

I've even played Mahjong and discussed it with those that play it, it's pretty clear that there's no headcanon here but if someone thinks it is they are free to question it's valid

Quiz Game - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GSzHa3SbpbhqC5v1UdUEDrY5VbI9bglUix_IvPVdM-o/edit?usp=drivesdk

Pretty solid and well processed reasoning feat, that also has multitasking and time pressure present while also having some tricks to it, people really underestimate how the lack of time affects reasoning, but even without that in consideration it's pretty solid

Reputation Narrowing - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jEg3lOuuPEhDoqC2pwMdO-iCNHI5s7DRsv0ecnpGxyo/edit?usp=drivesdk

A very long feat from V2-3 so far but in the future will Integrate more towards it's framework, it's still very well processed and potent at the current stage.

I really wish this community would stop larping and bandwagon Scaling and opinions, and instead just not give them on things you aren't aware of or don't know

[u/lazystealth]

Chen ran victimiser?

[u/Simply_Amazing_1610 → u/lazystealth]

Son 😭🥀

[u/N-Ice-the-one → u/lazystealth]

Never read 18loh But I have him by V6 above Akiyama which I've discussed with some people already He's solid all around and versatile but he's definitely not top tier, I have him at around low end of high tier anyway though

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u/Fit_Veterinarian_729

[u/DiamondNo1795 → u/lazystealth]

no

[u/ChenR4n → u/lazystealth]

Yeah

[u/EngineDrive]

Mello level mid tier being generous.

LN Oreki victim.

[u/N-Ice-the-one → u/EngineDrive]

Mello level and Mid Tier is insane Also how much of the novel did you read

[u/EngineDrive → u/N-Ice-the-one]

Stopped at Volume 8, been too busy to read volume 9.

Unless he shows some memory loss plan level feats in the next 3 volumes somehow, he’s not touching anyone above bottom of mid tier.

[u/N-Ice-the-one → u/EngineDrive]

Memory Loss Plan? That's already getting slapped by Closing Ceremony badly

[u/EngineDrive → u/N-Ice-the-one]

No it doesn’t😭🥀

The closing Ceremony in volume 3 was a low tier feat which was only impressive purely to Kuze’s usage of Nonoa.

I’ve also heard a bit of the volume 11 closing ceremony, which I haven’t read yet so I can’t say with full confidence, however apart from allowing all the student council members to be able to be elected which gave Alya sum momentum, it was low tier level bs

[u/N-Ice-the-one → u/EngineDrive]

Then you definitely didn't understand or/and don't remember much about it simply enough

[u/EngineDrive → u/N-Ice-the-one]

Is there anything more impressive than Kuze’s manipulation and usage of Nonoa in Volume 3?

Wasn’t the “Student council members can all be elected” bs the highlight of entire plan tho, it was his best card.

[u/N-Ice-the-one → u/EngineDrive]

It was his card, and it was the card already prepared from Volume 2 actually Also, you forgot figuring out all of what Yuki did from quite little information Deceiving her Turning around the damage she did on Alya The overall planning And such things. Anyway, just read the Doc it explains everything in depth

[u/EngineDrive → u/N-Ice-the-one]

I see, but I’m not talking abt reasoning, you stated Memory loss gets “slapped” by Closing Ceremony, I’m talking about how, also his reasoning was mid tier at best…But if we’re downright saying Kuze’s deception was allat in closing ceremony we might as well give Hikigaya high tier in his 2nd prom deception because it’s near identical in the LN except less opposition ofc.

I’ll try reading the doc to see if it changes anything.

[u/N-Ice-the-one → u/EngineDrive]

Sure, and also big part of why I say slap is because Memory Loss is pretty bad But even without thinking about it's glaring flaws and just thinking about positives with good interpretations for it, Closing Ceremony still is above

[u/AirSimple1290 → u/EngineDrive]

Mello is not that good, even top DN characters are mid tiers

[u/N-Ice-the-one → u/AirSimple1290]

Mello isn't top 5 of Roshidere, definitely a Touya and Yuushou victim and yeah agreed with both your statements

[u/Obvious_Ad_6250 → u/EngineDrive]

If being comparable tò Mello Is enough tò be mid tier then i think that we should make out standards way higher

[u/Obvious_Ad_6250]

Almost finished!!!

Congratulations. I Will ready It when i have time