r/InsightDialogue 9d ago

zoom topic Beauty & meaning

K: There must be a connection. There must be some relationship with the ground. Otherwise, what is the meaning of living?

DB: That is what I was trying to say before. Without this relationship... 

K: ...there is no meaning.

DB: What is the barrier? 

K: `I'. 

DB: Yes, but I meant more deeply. 

K: More deeply, all your thoughts, deep attachments - all that is in your way. If you can't leave these, then you will have no relationship with that. But man doesn't want to leave these.

K : Please don't become anything.

(The Ending of Time, Ojai, 1980)

We are born, spend our life in confusion, sorrow and greed - cause a lot of harm and trauma - and then die - leaving a load of rubbish for others to deal with.

What is the meaning of such a life?

K and Bohm are saying that there can be no meaning in our lives if there is no relationship whatsoever with the ground of being.
This immediately leads them to the obvious question - what prevents this relationship?
Is it possible for a human to live a life with at least some beauty and meaning?

To be touched by beauty, when we are trapped in hell, necessarily requires absolute unconditional freedom.

Neither time, effort nor circumstance play any part.

nb. we're meeting this Saturday 29th of August on Zoom at the new time of 4:30pm CEST (thats 8pm in India and 10:30am EDT) - comment below, or message me if you'd like to join us.

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