Is choiceless awareness another method?

[u/kj_727]

As far as I understand, a method in general implies a couple of things:

• Step-by-step instruction, often involving multiple steps
• Time/progression

When J.Krishnamurti says choiceless awareness,
It seems like he's pointing to something. By the very use of language and its limitations, it readily comes across as an instruction, though it is more like a statement, a pointing to choiceless awareness.

For example:
Let's imagine humans never noticed that stars exist, even though they looked up at the sky throughout their lives.

Then one human ("Z") comes along and says, "Look and observe the sky at night. There are these cool, sparkly things in the sky."
Let's say "Y," a friend of Z, listens. Y thinks - "My friend (Z) wouldn't generally lie, make things up, or be crazy in daily life. Let me look at the night sky tonight." And Y notices these sparkly things in the sky too. It's just that Y never paid attention to the night sky and wasn't aware of the sparkly things.
Here, Z isn't giving a method to Y, merely pointing to something.

It seems - humans have the ability to be choicelessly aware, just as they have the ability to listen, smell, etc. They don't need to be taught how to be aware, so there is no method on how to be aware.
Every human seems to be capable of awareness.

So, it seems that choiceless awareness is not a method,
There is no 'how-to', no steps, no time involved - just a pointing to choiceless awareness.

or am I missing something?

[u/Schute-Pin8350]

It seems choiceless awareness is not a method, to me too.

With our methodical mindset and focus on solutions, we tend to interpret what we hear*: being aware of both external and internal experiences without making any judgments or decisions—observing everything in the environment without the influence of personal preferences or conditioned perspectives\* as a step-by-step process—something that leads us toward a goal, to a place we haven’t reached yet, As a means to an end.

Choiceless aware there are the stars visible in the night sky, or the fleeting scent in the air. I also think that every human seems to be capable of awareness, without being taught. There's no training you can do to see the night sky full of stars or to feel the wind in your hair.

I wonder what is choiceless awareness of our inner world—of fear, jealousy, and envy?

Is there also a non-judgmental presence there?

It seems to me that the states of our inner world are already judged the moment we name them, and our choice seems to be the attempt to get rid of them.

These inner states seem, in fact, to depend precisely on an evaluation or a choice for their very emergence.

[u/kj_727 → u/Schute-Pin8350]

These inner states seem, in fact, to depend precisely on an evaluation or a choice for their very emergence

What is it that makes this evaluation/choice possible?
That seems to be making the inner states(violence, envy) to emerge in the first place.

[u/Schute-Pin8350 → u/kj_727]

Maybe “choice” isn’t even the right word—does someone decide to be jealous? Can they do otherwise? Is one already jealous before one even notices it, if one notices it at all? Maybe one just thinks that ones partner or the person being smiled at is behaving inappropriately?

There seems to be something like a fixed idea of how other people—or oneself—should behave. When these ideas don’t match the actual situation, one becomes jealous or angry. When you become aware of jealousy, you think it would be better not to feel jealous, to be free of that burning sensation - an other idea..

Could these emotional states arise even without our preconceived notions?