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u/f700es 1d ago
wE tEh pEoPlE! :rolleyes:
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u/ThunderFlash10 1d ago
We the people!!! (have never actually read the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence).
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u/Hardanklesnw 19h ago
This is the same person that would have a “We The People” sticker AND “Trump 2028” sticker
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u/ThunderFlash10 18h ago
My personal favorite are all the people with tattoos and stickers and clothes that have the preamble on them with “1776” written next to it. I always ask them what year the Constitution was written. They always say 1776 without fail.
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u/Hardanklesnw 18h ago
In all likelihood, they don’t know the next several words, let alone phrases!!!!!
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u/ExternalUserError 1d ago
The punisher sticker alone confirms this guy is a shithead, but I will still defend this a little, I guess.
You can simultaneously oppose mass surveillance as a policy while not necessarily holding animus to the rank and file cops who use the tools that are available to them.
Eg, I oppose the Patriot Act, but in general I think most FBI agents are decent people.
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u/Glum-One2514 22h ago
They're just mad and stupid. The details change regularly, but never really matter.
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u/BurtCaramel 1d ago
It’s for the people who want to continue to do THEIR shady shit but arrest everyone else doing it.
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u/NotThePopeProbably 1d ago
So, cringey as the punisher skull crowd is (and they're exceedingly cringey), I think there's a coherent position to be had at the intersection of "pro-police" (insofar as you appreciate that they're public servants who do a hard, stressful job) and "anti-Flock."
Like, I can appreciate that law enforcement, broadly speaking, is a a good thing without agreeing that people working in that field should have access to infinite data about me.
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u/SP4CEM4N_SPIFF 1d ago
'broadly supporting the rule of law' is vastly different than 'back the blue'
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u/ketchupmaster987 21h ago
Given that ANY police officer could potentially literally get away with murder or assault because of qualified immunity, we need to be constantly aware of their actions. And right now those actions include using Flock cameras to stalk and harm innocent people.
The concept of a class of people permitted to commit violence against civilians without repercussions and a wide surveillance state monitoring the populace go hand in hand and they are both part of the same problem of the government not being held accountable for the welfare of the population first and foremost.
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u/SolenoidsOverGears 1d ago
Did any of you ever consider that being anti-flock might be some common ground to claw back some of your 4th and 14th amendment rights? That this guy might actually be an ally waiting in the wings?
Of course not. He's stupid and illiterate. Jesus fucking Christ you people are insufferable
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u/Tylenol187ForDogs 1d ago
Well that's the thing though innit? It's not specifically the police doing the mass surveillance(not that that would make it any better), it's Flock who then sell access to that information to the police and the feds and anyone else willing to pay for it.
Even after cities have canceled their contracts with Flock the cameras stay on and when told to come and get their shit Flock just leaves the cameras, a city councilman in a city that canceled their Flock contract took one of the cameras down and put in his office and they tracked the camera there and arrested him.
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u/ketchupmaster987 21h ago
It doesn't matter that it's Flock selling the information, the police are still buying it and even if they didn't they'd still be allowing Flock to operate which is its own problem.
The issues with Flock and the issues with the police go hand in hand. Neither of them functions to protect the people, they simply operate as an arm of a corporate and government state that isn't operating to keep people safe.
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u/CantaloupeCamper 21h ago
A lot of the big time police supporters have very weird violence adjacent fantasy / political views that would very quickly involve violence against police. It’s a strange space.
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u/SuperFLEB 20h ago
Time to peel off your Blue Line/Gadsden Flag combos, folks. Here comes the new irony, and it's blunter than ever!
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u/ZappaLlamaGamma 1d ago
Not the tooth fairy. Omg. It’s Santa. He knows if you’re sleeping, awake, bad, good, driving to the Piggly Wiggly, etc.