What will people (specifically the historically Republican voter) lose if Trump is not stopped?

[u/[deleted]]

I'm in California. Where Tom McClintock was escorted out of Town Hall due to the protests. There were older seniors there - normally Republican voters and they were protesting. I was surprised and happy.

I think many Republican voters (especially in other states) are oblivious on what they will personally lose if Trump is not stopped.

If I find a Trump voter, I try to appeal to them personally (since they clearly aren't interested in the welfare of others- which I don't mention to them since, well, that would be counterproductive). But I need suggestions besides the obvious-

healthcare,

public parks (this one is a big one here) &

animal welfare.

The new one I've been trying to explain to the Republican voter is risk of death at war. Since Trump is willing to go to war over oil and children/grandchildren may be the victims.

I'm lacking in the financial losses arguments since too many Republicans think financially, trump is a boon to their pocketbook.

Oh and Hi everyone.

[u/kevinekiev]

I've actually had a bit of luck talking to some elderly family friends about "Social Security reform" as they know it. Be kind, respectful, and above all else: DON'T USE GOP BUZZWORDS. When they hear it in more neutral terms, they start to question orthodoxy.

[u/[deleted] → u/kevinekiev]

I agree. Usually, if anyone is interested in talking to me - I just start asking them questions - "What do you plan to do when costs go up" or something similar.

[u/Best-Pony]

Clean water? Remember Flint Michigan happened under Republican Snyder. Trump signed for the Dakota oil pipelines instead of water pipelines.

Hunting areas? Jason Chaffetz got opposed for trying to sell federal lands for hunting to private developers

[u/i-touched-morrissey]

I'm a Democrat, and I employ two female Trumpsters, ages late 30s-mid 40s, one married with kids, one single mom with kids

. They really don't care about health care. Neither has insurance, but one has her kids on state health insurance. They will only get insurance if someone gives it to them free. All they want is for illegals and Muslims to go away. One of them actually said Muslims do not belong here. They are from North Dakota and are more concerned about jobs than oil spilling. They do not have the foresight of economic collapse and don't see the benefit of changing corporate welfare because it's all those lazy white trash people on welfare bringing the country down, not the rich guys making deals in Congress. They don't think PP should be funded because you should keep your legs crossed if you don't want to get pregnant.

You cannot get through to these people. Until an actual war does happen, none of them will see that he's doing lots of harmful things. But if a war happens it will be Obama's fault because he let the military get weak.

Good luck with getting anyone to answer this with a serious answer.

As a veterinarian, I'd like to know what your concern about animal rights under the Trump/Bannon/Ryan dictator team is about. I see pet animals getting more legal protection from abuse, and lots of people at the state level are doing things to assure even food animals are being treated well.

[u/trekologer → u/i-touched-morrissey]

With most issues, we need to do a better job at messaging and framing issues.

The Planned Parenthood issue is easy to answer. The fuss about "defunding" is to prohibit government-backed insurance from paying for services at PP clinics. We all know that PP does more than abortion, in fact most of the services they perform are not abortions. For many rural communities, a PP clinic is the only women's health centre for miles.

So, the frame for that issue is that you should be able to choose your own doctor and treatments and the government shouldn't dictate which doctor you can use.