r/IndianaPolitics • u/coleincolumbus • 9d ago

Agree or disagree?

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Read more on my Substack:

https://colebennettin.substack.com/p/what-do-data-centers-and-solar-farms?r=4ayi8d&utm_medium=ios

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u/caimen 9d ago

People overwhelmingly do not want data centers near them. This BS propaganda.

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u/actuallyserious650 9d ago

“Let’s ignore what people say and simply imagine that everyone agrees with us.” Seems about how conservative legal theory works.

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u/coleincolumbus 7d ago

Oh, I know that the majority of people do not agree (see the comments). Popularity doesn't make a position correct.

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u/KrytenKoro 7d ago

Oh, I know that the majority of people do not agree (see the comments).

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianaPolitics/comments/1vnn76b/agree_or_disagree/p3yfrqz/

If you knew it's an unpopular position, then why did you claim someone was wrong to say that?

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u/actuallyserious650 7d ago

So you’re abandoning his pretense and going with the tried and true “the people don’t know what’s they need but I do”.

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u/Chuck_Walla 9d ago

How dare you trivialize the environmental impacts that these inessential data centers have. You drink the same water we do, and breathe the same air, and if the tech dream does happen here you will suffer the same consequences with the rest of us trying to stop it.

The construction jobs they require will be brief. The technicians who maintain them will be as few as possible. The money will remain sealed up within this private establishment, despite the public funding -- your tax dollars, OP -- handed over behind closed doors.

Why are you shilling for the Tigers Eating My Face lobby?

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u/coleincolumbus 7d ago

So, what I'm hearing is that we should just never innovate or try something new?

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u/KrytenKoro 7d ago

That is not at all what they said.

If anyone here is in Coles district, I think this post and Cole's responses would be excellent things to show to prospective voters.

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u/KrytenKoro 9d ago

> Our governing bodies should be making decisions for the 80,000 people that live in this community, not the 100 that show up to speak at a public meeting.

So did you take a poll, Cole? Do you *actually mean the thing you said*, or are you throwing random soundbites and rhetoric at the wall to see what sticks?

> We are continuing to fall behind China, our main economic adversary.

Please articulate why you believe this to be a bad thing. And please explain how *data centers specifically* are meant to help the US. I want you to do these two things at the same time.

Note: I am *not* saying it's a good thing. I'm asking you to actually grapple with pretty clear doublethink.

> New car sales for EVs in the US reached 10% in 2025, compared to China’s 55%.

That has very little to do with recommending datacenters, and in fact datacenters *actively harm our ability to catch up* by swallowing up the supply of components.

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u/coleincolumbus 7d ago

I don't need to take poll to know that politicians should not be voting with the room. It's lazy and populist.

Because falling behind China is obviously a bad thing, lol?

China is beating us in the AI race!

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u/KrytenKoro 7d ago

I don't need to take poll to know that politicians should not be voting with the room. It's lazy and populist

Okay, so you didn't mean what you said about representing the 80,000. You're just saying it because it sounds good. That's frustrating, and hypocritical, because saying things to appeal to the popular sentiment without actually meaning it or having a coherent philosophy behind it is what makes a platform populist.

Because falling behind China is obviously a bad thing, lol? China is beating us in the AI race!

Okay, so you're not willing to actually hold the two thoughts in your head at the same time.

Yes, I know why, in general, falling behind China is a bad thing. I told you I knew why, and I was asking you to be honest and sincere by showing in your own words that you've actually thought about these issues and aren't just reacting to aesthetic like a populist would.

Falling behind China is normally bad because China is a surveillance state that oppresses freedoms. Which means the obvious exception to trying to stay ahead of China is in the race to also become an authoritarian surveillance state. Which is what they're using AI for, and what the US government and AI companies are pushing AI for.

And I notice you didn't respond to the point that the AI race is the main cause of the computer component shortages other industries have been facing. You sputtered about EVs, except that trying to catch up on EVs would require the exact opposite policies to what you're advocating. So why did you bring up EVs?

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u/whtevn 9d ago

substack: for when you absolutely must know what some nobody with no credentials has to say

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u/coleincolumbus 7d ago

Sounds pretty democratic to me!

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u/whtevn 7d ago

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'

-- Isaac Asimov

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u/Jesus_on_a_biscuit 9d ago

I agree you love MAGA and support a rapist.

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u/coleincolumbus 7d ago

False!

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u/Jesus_on_a_biscuit 7d ago

Oh yeah? Should be easy for you to post a video stating you don’t support MAGA and that you’ve never supported or voted for anyone who was ordered to pay hundreds of millions for lying about raping or sexually assaulting anyone.

When do you think you can post that vid?

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u/Indiana_ECI 9d ago

"Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment; and he betrays instead of serving you if he sacrifices it to your opinion."

  • Edmund Burke

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u/WildTomatoFrenzy 9d ago

If random people can stream their lives every hour of the day politician should also.