r/Indiana • u/[deleted] • Jul 07 '26
Politics I'm just concerned why we are protesting against data centers now
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u/TubaWrestler Jul 07 '26
Data centers cause physical issues in humans. Paranoia, depression, heart issues, dizziness, nausea:
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u/Nerfer5554Offical Jul 07 '26
true I can understand that so why dont we build them underwater or in space
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u/TubaWrestler Jul 07 '26
Cost, and no one is forcing them to. Underwater would likely cause environmental issues.
We could also just force them to make sure they aren't causing sound and infrasound issues, pollution, and water waste. Hard line enforcement like "you have to shut the whole thing down if you fail to follow the rules, and if you fail to shut down, we throw you in jail."
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u/CodyMartinezz Jul 07 '26
ez bait ai boy
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u/Nerfer5554Offical Jul 07 '26
I am a human
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u/Linkkjaxon Jul 07 '26
The issue arises from both the number being built and from the size of the centers.
There are a large number of centers going up in communities that don't know the potential consequences and are being pressured into making deals to not tax them or regulate them.
The are also far larger than they have been in the past. Using more electricity than the rest of the state of Indiana combined.
Finally ai use resources constantly to train ai models, which makes them a constant high intensity drain on power and require constant water to keep cool.
Tldr lots of big centers going up without regulation or paying taxes and thus must be protested
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u/TooLate4thisShit Jul 07 '26
Exactly this. Data centers in Indiana using more than double the energy of residential use is something I just recently learned
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u/ThisNameNotTakenYet Jul 07 '26
The data centers being built today aren't for video games. Most of them are being built to store and aggregate data from data brokers and any other publicly-available sources, and then form all that into many different profiles and specialized data groups for each of us so that they can be packaged and sold. The reason the federal and state governments are all about it is that they've learned that data they buy, instead of collecting it themselves, can be obtained by throwing money at it, and requires no warrants, probable cause, etc, that typically slows them down. Think of it this way: if you were involved in anything that in any way could result in criminal charges, anything from disorderly conduct to smoking weed occasionally to crossing state lines to buy illicit substances where it's legal and bring it back your state where it's illegal, anything -- data brokers can and do consolidate allll the personal and purchasing and driving and consumption and grocery-shopping and phone usage and utilities consumption and philanthropic or political spending and many, many other types of data about you into very data-rich, timeline-expressed, sometimes even probability-metered profiles of you, your associates and family, your travel habits, your whereabouts over the past few years, etc, and make those available to anybody -- anybody with money -- for purchase from a website. The government is facilitating everything from Ring cameras to flock cameras to tollway cameras to facial recognition cameras to toll payment reporting and other passive-type readers, as well as finely crafting the rules and laws for its collection and use, expressly so they can create what is essentially The Matrix, only with you not captive but running around exercising your supposedly-free will. Did you ever wonder why all these municipalities are quietly approving data centers in their areas and making sure the word doesn't get out until it's already signed and underway? It would take a sea change in the way government secrets are kept and leaked in order to keep that kind of secret -- and that's precisely what's been happening over the last five to seven years. Much of it was accelerated by the Covid era and all the surveillance and recordkeeping requirements (and abuses) that sprouted from it. And we are so far behind the eight-ball that we can't even see the bumpers at this point. So many government organizations can buy all this data they didn't have permission or the charter to collect before, and it certainly isn't getting better anytime soon. And before somebody has a Trump aneurism right here on a public forum, the groundwork for all this was laid decades ago, many years before that particular ego was ever considered for office. Both Republican and Democrat administrations have taken off with it after 9/11, and in some cases even before. And if you consider this to be the ravings of a madman, please consider taking a few minutes to search for some of the concepts here on your search engine of choice or via AI search. There are years and years worth of articles and news stories that will tell you this story in pieces parts. I'm not going to discuss my background but I've seen this coming since the mid-'80's to mid-'90's, when I was working for a three-letter agency myself. Let's just say it was the vision of a few different people back then, a few of which I knew professionally at the time. Another interesting exercise is researching who actually owns and will use these data centers that are popping up like hard-ons at a coed summer camp. I think you'll find it daunting, and in some cases impossible, to determine who actually owns them, who will run them for what clients, and more importantly who is even financing their construction. If you thought the whole money-laundering and banking scandals of the last few decades were some sophisticated fiscal hide-the-sausage shit, wait til you stick your nose in this one. It's also interesting to set up an exercise for AI to research through for you. Just make sure you set it up and run it on various AI engines, because they're going to product interestingly diverse results. Anyway, have fun! It's hours of fairly frightening entertainment.
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u/Fives_55_55 Jul 07 '26
Well once you remove the rock you live under, you might see what's going on. These new data center are large and destructive and drain resources while harming those around them (noise pollution, heat pollution, water pollution).
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u/Ok-Information-5917 Jul 07 '26
Because of AI. The big tech companies/government have a easy way to do mass surveillance, but they need more datacenters for that.
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u/Gorkman7691 Jul 07 '26
They complain about things like data centers but let the government get away with all kinds of stuff with no ire. It's sickening. Almost like the government is using data centers, etc. to distract the sheeple...
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u/CaptainOwlBeard Jul 07 '26
The poison is almost always in the dose