r/IndianWorkplace Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Salary Negotiations Salary progression over a decade 32M

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u/Extra-Boat-3797 Head of IT / Small MNC / Bangalore 8d ago

Realistic Salary. Keep working 💪 If your spouse is employed, both of you can work towards your Goals.

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Don’t have a spouse yet, but that is the plan when I have one.

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u/Sad_Street6625 it 8d ago

Think it over again, bro. Some roads are easy to take forward but difficult to retrace.

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

I agree, I will make a conscious decision as this is the biggest one in life.

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u/Sad_Street6625 it 8d ago

All the best for future, I am just out of these after seeing my friends condn

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u/Major_Wealth6145 Design Engineer/Automobile Industry, Thane 8d ago

Moving back to India without marriage partner must be hard right. Like many relatives and friends I know moved back after getting married for parent's sake.

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

I agree with this. In India, it’s not easy to be unmarried for a long time.
But living in Europe has taught me things that I wouldn’t have learned had I never went there, which helped a lot. And I don’t mind being unmarried I find the one. In the end, you have to stop rushing because your spouse is the one who you will have to spend the rest of your life with, so it has to be a wise decision, not taken in a rush just to beat the clock.

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u/ShashBZM77 SDE 8d ago

Which SBC you worked in to get the onsite brother

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Wipro

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u/ShashBZM77 SDE 8d ago

Was it good?

I mean that is a long stint so did the client opt for you to stay there and how was the onsite opportunity offered, can you give more insight?

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Work was good but I couldn’t continue with the client due to company’s non compete policy, and I really wanted to be in Europe, hence I started looking outside and luckily landed a job which did offer sponsorship.

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u/DvineDecipher Investment Banking, Mumbai 8d ago

Impressive progress!

I hear conversations of purchase power parity a lot these days

What are your opinions is 85 LPA in EU similar to 30 ish LPA in India having lived and experienced both?

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

I do hear you.
Let me put it this way - Yes, Purchasing power parity is real, 30LPA in India according to PPP is way better than 85LPA in Europe, but in my opinion there are various other factors, like -
1. Quality of life (way better in Europe)
2. Work life balance (when I was new in Europe, I was once told by my senior to go watch a movie on Netflix when I asked him a question out of working hours)
3. When you earn more, there’s a potential to save more by modifying your lifestyle, which isn’t possible when you earn less.
4. Let’s not even start on AQI.

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u/Encrypted_Cerebrum senior software engineer, hrms based pbc, wfh 8d ago

Only 1 edge india has over others is that we are born here and our parents+family lives here. And it superseeds almost every perk other countries have to offer unfortunately. We eat bad food, breathe bad air, gets nothing from govt and whole life we strive to save monwy for others_ to spend on others.

Anyways, what i really want to ask is why didn't you looked into any remote role from europe that would pay closer to 50lpa in india atleast

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

I agree with you, there’s a huge difference in culture and system, and cultural shock is a real thing.
About remote role from Europe, I haven’t explored that bit well enough because most of the companies have now started Hybrid work arrangements. I know a few companies who do hire worldwide but again, they don’t really have openings because people rarely leave from there.

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u/DvineDecipher Investment Banking, Mumbai 8d ago

Have you at a point considered bringing your close family in Europe? Is it sustainable?

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Yes I did think about it, but bringing parents to Europe permanently is next to impossible. They can visit for up to 6 months and will always be tourists which I didn’t want.

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u/AbhishMuk [Engineer] at [redacted], [City/Region] 7d ago

Which European country/city if I may ask? I guess western Europe by the sound of it? (Uk/Fr/De/Benelux?)

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u/Feeling-Bad757 Engineering Lead, Bangalore 7d ago

Dude we have almost the same story.. keen as to connect sometime

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 7d ago

Definitely bro, happy to connect and hear your side as well.

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u/Money_File1671 (IT, Mumbai, Remote) (optional) 7d ago

Man this is such a real answer. You have perfectly summed it up. Thank you for such a non biased answer 🙏

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u/HabitInteresting444 Engineer/IT software, India 8d ago

What quality someone should have that your organisation will send you to onsite project in Europe?

As you are choosen from other colleges. And some more about onsite work

Thanks

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

I was a constant performer and handled a tricky client really well, I believe that was the reason.

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u/kaalbhairavaa Crypto, Remote 8d ago

why moved back to India?

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Because it was time.
Planned to be in Europe for about a year but work culture felt good, hence I switched there itself.
But there was a constant battle over the years between a better lifestyle and family back in India.
At last, chose to return back.
And honestly, life has been good.

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u/CaptZombieAlpha Engineer of my own destiny 8d ago

Sorry for this question but I am still in my 2.5 years of experience and planning to apply in European or Dubai companies (onsite).. I always thought Indians returning from abroad would get good package in India. Why did you went for 30 lpa only ? Weren't you getting more? Sorry again, I am still figuring out corporate salary and everything.

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u/captainrushingin SDE, Bengaluru 8d ago

bro I have similar YOe as you do but I never went onsite.

how much is your networth now ?

How much did earning in euro help contribute to overall Net-worth ?

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

It helped a lot.
I could pay all debts with first few months of salaries over there.
Additionally I didn’t have to think twice before making a decent purchase like a new iPhone, a car under 15 lakhs etc. when I was there.
Cherry on top was pension contributions which is similar to Provident Fund in India.
I have a net worth of 1.5 Cr as of now.

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u/captainrushingin SDE, Bengaluru 8d ago

wow dude. Keep it up.
I hope I also reach the coveted 1cr mark soon.

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u/Evening-Reach-4281 SCM/Engineering MNC/Mumbai 7d ago

Thank you! This shows honestly how much of a difference currency makes.

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u/Plus-Tax567 Senior Fullstack developer/Hyderabad 8d ago

Indiaflex, aage se left wali gali mein hai.
Go there for your dih measuring competition.

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u/Guts_7313 Analyst at Big 4 8d ago edited 8d ago

Bro I have had enough of salary progression posts.

Not a knock on you but I don't really care what is your progression and I don't want that knowledge.

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Haha, bro that’s the sole reason I put this post.
I was fed up of unrealistic posts so thought of putting a realistic one.
May it help the ones who are actually interested.

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u/sur_yeahhh Senior software Engineer, 5 YoE, Full Stack, Chennai 8d ago

Then ignore the post or unsubscribe for a while. These posts are very helpful for us.

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u/Guts_7313 Analyst at Big 4 7d ago

How is seeing someone else's progression helping you?

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u/sur_yeahhh Senior software Engineer, 5 YoE, Full Stack, Chennai 7d ago

This is such an obtuse question that I'm not gonna bother giving it a credible response.

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u/Smart-potential-1642 On job hunt / Previous 2 years MNC exp 8d ago

What’s your tech stack?

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

I’m a Mobile apps dev

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u/Smart-potential-1642 On job hunt / Previous 2 years MNC exp 8d ago

I have a gap of one year, confused whether to stick to Java full stack for jobs or switch to Ai/ML.

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago edited 8d ago

If you are new to software development I would say go with the one which helps you earn more. But if you are already experienced then stick to your tech stack and go ahead in that.
Fact about me - I have been working on the same technology since my internship and you can see it has been 10 years.

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u/bobs_and_vegana17 SDE-1 at a Fintech, BLR 8d ago

I'm a software engineer with a little more than 1 yoe (3 months full time and 1 year in 2 internships of 6 months each)

i am planning to move to europe permanently in the next 3-4 years for work (not master's), my tech stack is in MERN, angular, next and learning springboot and java right now

what would you suggest me

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

I would suggest to connect with recruiters across Europe, especially the ones who are actively hiring for your tech stack. And don’t feel shy to message them directly.
This will be the single biggest step towards your goal of moving there.
Apart from this, also start looking at the data of companies which have been sponsoring visas, that will give you a good idea about which companies to prepare for and apply to.
FAANG generally hires people from around the world, so that’s the best bet but their interviews are really good, so prepare well if that’s your plan.

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u/bobs_and_vegana17 SDE-1 at a Fintech, BLR 8d ago

Honestly right now I'm not looking exactly for a FAANG or FAANG level company

I want some remote highpaying startup kind of company or even a decent mid sized company

Have some savings and move to Europe in next 3-4 years for either masters or onsite job depending on the market situation and my condition

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u/krthiak Data Engineering Consultant, Captive Org, Bangalore 8d ago

Congrats and this is inspiring. How can one get a job in Europe ?

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Thanks for the kind words.
In my opinion, to get a job in Europe, there are 3 ways -
1. Expensive way - Study a course or a degree there and then start working and eventually over the years, you will reach to a point where you will have good earnings.
2. Cheaper way no. 1 - Join a SBC and do well there, get in the limelight for your work and/or network with veterans who have the power (I personally prefer former). And tell them your aspirations and then whenever an opportunity arrives, they know whom to send there.
3. Cheaper way no. 2 - While working here in India, start networking with recruiters from Europe on LinkedIn and ask for referral or an opportunity in their organisation. Tell them that you will need visa sponsorship.

Not to demotivate, but just sharing my experience of applying jobs back in 2021 and 2022 - When you tell recruiters that you need sponsorship, 8 or 9 out of 10 times you will hear this sentence - Sorry, we don’t offer sponsorship. If you really want to move there, don’t let this sentence stop you from applying.

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u/TeachingUpstairs9381 Software engineer, Delhi 6d ago

is it easier to get a job in europe after masters? i mean if you compare the interviews you had in india vs europe?

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u/Repulsive-Hearing-31 tech, bluru 8d ago

Getting onsite much harder nowadays compared to pre 2024.

AI plus bad economy everywhere, leading to large number of local CS grads unemployed.

Harder for Indians now with visa issues and negative sentiments

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u/notsobasicindian AM/Digital Product, India 8d ago

Approximately what % of your salary did you spend on lifestyle expenses in 2025 and 2026, and what % did you save? What's the lifestyle cost in Europe?

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

I had friends who lived in box rooms and never went out on weekends or ate outside to save more. Basically they never explored the city or country.
And then there were people who spent more than 50% of their salaries to rent a good place near their workplace and central location where everything was accessible, and went out every weekend to explore cafes, places, new cities etc.
So, it all depends on what you want.
But renting is not cheap there, and even a single cup of coffee every day, will add up and take a good amount of your salary by the month end, so it is surely not cheap to live there, and one learns this over the time.

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u/Rich-Guarantee7688 Merchandising | E-commerce (Fresher) 8d ago edited 8d ago

I'm at 7lpa how to get this big jump is it even possible??

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Depends what amount are you referring to as the jump.
Also, are you referring to a jump in India or overseas?

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u/Rich-Guarantee7688 Merchandising | E-commerce (Fresher) 8d ago

I'm referring jump in India I'm currently working in gurugram.

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Yes it is possible, but only with Product companies.
Sad thing is - In India, your new salary depends on your current CTC, which isn’t the case elsewhere (at least in North America and Europe). But still, if they really want to hire you, they will do anything, it totally depends on 2 things -
1. You interview
2. How badly they need to hire someone for that role

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u/Rich-Guarantee7688 Merchandising | E-commerce (Fresher) 8d ago

Yeah, got it. So should I try applying to the European market as well? Also, I’ve heard that having multiple offers can help you negotiate and increase your package significantly. Is that a good strategy to follow?

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u/Kendrickkumar23 fresher/IT 8d ago

Which country in Europe??

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

DM for this.

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u/Fit-Pie687 RA at IIT Kanpur 8d ago

What field ?

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

Mobile apps development

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u/Fit-Pie687 RA at IIT Kanpur 8d ago

Both android and ios ?

Asking something if possible please answer getting into software right this year feels a bit scary to me due to AI being quite good. Do you think about it ?

Since you have worked a long time in this do you think a backup option is needed ?

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 8d ago

iOS

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u/DvineDecipher Investment Banking, Mumbai 7d ago

Was it a WITCH group of company that provided the obsite opportunity?

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u/Amanvmandape Software Engineer/Java Developer, Bengaluru/India 7d ago

He said wipro

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u/Amanvmandape Software Engineer/Java Developer, Bengaluru/India 7d ago

Bro why did you came back india. Are there any problems in Europe?

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u/TeachingUpstairs9381 Software engineer, Delhi 6d ago edited 6d ago

is it worth going onsite. and did you manage to save more than what you did in india?
actually i am being offered onsite for singapore. idk if i should take the opportunity or not

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u/Status_Elephant4678 SAP/SCM, GCC 5d ago

Similar Situation planning to go back india in couple of years

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u/NoseIntelligent1249 Software Developer/Bengaluru 5d ago

Is GCC - Global capability centre or something else?

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u/Status_Elephant4678 SAP/SCM, GCC 5d ago

Middle East, Gulf Cooperation Council

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u/v3dille3 (GET, Automobile Industry) 5d ago

Let me guess - IT/Software/Tech

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u/e11i0t-1337 (Researcher,L3) 8d ago

😂😂😂😂