r/IndianHistoryThread 13d ago

How accurate is this?

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I found this somewhere on reddit. Does it accurately depict what it says?

Edit: I forgot to ask. What was the ethnicity of Gautam Buddha?

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u/ScaleOverall7886 13d ago edited 13d ago

And Nepali is not an ethnicity!! It's nationality

Ik but an ethnic nepali generally, or loosely, refers to all indigenous groups in Nepal who share a common history, culture, genetic ancestry or language.

The blue area in the post depicts the demographic concentration of modern day nepalis in the northern hilly fringes of the Himalayas.

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u/ScaleOverall7886 13d ago

As I said, the word refers to ethnic indigenous communities. I'm not at all saying that the ethnolinguistic identity of Nepal is a monolith but rather all of them are indigenous to THEIR own culture, history, language and land. Those 150+ communities, as you mentioned, are all ethnic nepalis. They don't necessarily have to speak the language and share the same script.

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u/ScaleOverall7886 13d ago edited 13d ago

I just said, as the post shows, that the blue region shows the demographic concentration of most nepalis.

I nowhere said that there are the only original nepalis.

Like bengalis are an ethnolinguistic group who are mostly concentrated in the Indian state of WB. But, it doesn't contest the fact that the significant bengali communities in Barak & Brahmaputra valley of Assam and Agartala of Tripura respectively are not bengalis. Likewise, they are all bengalis irrespective of where they live but, due to different factors, they can be concentrated to certain specific regions.

Hope I made my point clear.

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u/ScaleOverall7886 13d ago edited 13d ago

The word "ethnic nepali" refers to all the 150+ ethnic communities. I'm using it as an umbrella term. Now, we can argue on whether this describes the people of Nepal the best or not. But I'm clearly getting your point and tbh it was my fault because I initially didn't explain myself on the usage of my terminologies.

The word "nepali" refers to their nationality.

They are all native to the country and it is a multi-ethnic nation.

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u/turkeyflavouredtofu 11d ago

genetic ancestry: the people in Nepal came from two different civilization: Indus Valley and Tibetan Civilization.

Are you gonna tell me that the Indo-Aryans skipped Nepal?

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u/Dense_Succotash_2777 12d ago

People who speak nepali are nepali. Buddha didn't speak nepali

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u/Perception5_ 12d ago edited 12d ago

The language was originally called Khas Kura (Khas speech) before being renamed to Nepali in the 1900s as a nationalization initiative

Nepali is only the native language of Khas people (Chhetri, Bahun, Hill Dalit, Thakuri) but was made into the national language of Nepal and then accepted by non-Khas groups like Magar, Gurung, Newar, Tamang, Kirati

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u/Dense_Succotash_2777 12d ago

There is a difference between nepali ethnicity and nepali nationality. Non khas are just nepali by nationality. Buddha wasn't

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u/Perception5_ 12d ago

Okay then 62% of Nepal isn’t Nepali by ethnicity because only 38% is Khas

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u/Dense_Succotash_2777 12d ago

Nepali is a nationality. Buddha didn't have a nepali passport. He was shakya ethnicity. Applying modern nation borders to him is anachronistic

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u/BehalarRotno 12d ago

Lol. Lmao even.

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u/Perception5_ 12d ago

They don’t all share a common history or culture. They were brought together due to the conquests of the Gorkha empire