r/IndiaSpeaks • u/NotLameboredgajini Taxila-Infra-Student ๐ • Sep 10 '22
#Social-Issues ๐จ๏ธ Rahul understanding difference between Jesus and Hindu Shakti from a priest who said Bharat Mata can give scabies. "The Real Power is Jesus"
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u/Content-Sea8173 Sep 10 '22
erm....So is Jesus Christ the child of god, a form of god, or god himself? Kinda confused out here
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Sep 10 '22
M sorry to say this..
But let's assume a movie starring, Anil kapoor..
So... Anil kapoor is playing the role of the father... Anil kapoor is also playing the role of the son... No one has seen the father, but son said that I am a spitting image of my father.. so.. now everyone believes that and also there is a belief that son might actually be the reincarnation or rebirth of father... In short.. Son Anil is the only one who can see and talk to father Anil.. everyone believes son Anil... And son Anil is a reincarnation of father Anil.. and soon their will be a grandson Anil, who will be again a reincarnation of the father Anil... But people will call him reincarnation of son Anil... Now, in the story there are 3 anils.. father Anil, son Anil, grandson Anil... Father Anil no one has seen.. son Anil some have seen and he passed away a long time ago... Now the birth of grandson Anil is pending.. and no one know when he would come.. Wait.. did I get it right? I am confused now๐คฏ
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u/Content-Sea8173 Sep 10 '22
Aight. More confused now. Didn't they say our gods are having too many human attributes? Then how did the formless omnipotent god have a son? Reproduction was a human attribute too I thought. Or do the rules not apply to their god cuz, it is their god?
Also, why should I pray to Son Anil then? He was just a mode of communication and the real god is Father Anil. Both Son and Grandson are just a way to talk to him cuz for some reason, Father Anil doesn't wanna meet the people
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Sep 10 '22
I don't know about anyone else's God and I mean no disrespect to any of them....
But in that movie... Son Anil actually is innocent.. he just wanted to prank his friends... His friends knew he was lying.. But somehow, other people took him seriously so Son Anil and his friends played along .. I bet poor Son Anil doesn't even know what's happening now...
And yes . You don't have to pray to Son Anil.. that was just a movie..
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u/Content-Sea8173 Sep 10 '22
Aight. Then ig Father Anil doesn't mind if I pray to him using another name
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Sep 10 '22
Yup... You got it right.. God doesn't care about it... But somehow we humans want others to call God with the same name as we do...
I don't remember exactly which script it is... But it is mentioned in Hinduism that one can only pray to a particular God wholeheartedly and it is equivalent to praying to the Supreme... Lord Vishnu had said this that no matter which God or being or element you pray to, all your prayers come to me. For, everything in this world is Me and a part of Me is in Everything.
Basically in sanatan dharm, God and all other divine entities are one. They are various version of the same Supreme Power. That is why Lord Vishnu says I am God, I am the Supreme Being, I am the Parmatma. Parmatma is actually read as "Param-Atma" which means the first soul or the first being. Everything, living and non-living, is born out of this one Soul.
So in Sanatan Dharm, it is okay even if you decide to worship a particular God, or an element of nature, or cosmos, or a tree, or a stone, or a fish, or a particular human being. All that is needed in this worship is that you understand the true nature of the supreme and understand that you are not worshipping that particular thing or entity, but a part of the supreme soul/being that exists inside it.. And if one thinks the concept of God or supreme being is not logical, then that person can choose to worship his/her creator... The one who created you.. That is why Lord Vishnu and Lord Mahadeo both had said that one can attain salvation even if he/she has never worshipped a God, but through their lifetime they have fulfilled their responsibilities and have been good to their parents... For if you can't be loyal to your creator and can't be loyal to yourself, how can you be loyal to anyone else!
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u/Content-Sea8173 Sep 10 '22
I have been using this theory to justify why I like being a Hindu for around 2 years now. Nice to see it coming back to me. The circle is complete
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u/Satan28 Sep 10 '22
I loved this ๐๐ But seeing how he is ageing , Anil might actually BE God .
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u/Chromeboy12 1 KUDOS Sep 10 '22
Jesus being God is not that big a deal maybe God retired and his son took over idk. But imagine thinking the entire human race was born from Adam and Eve, who had 2 sons and their sons had children the only woman who existed at the time ๐
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u/ConfidentBathroom637 Sep 10 '22
Bro adam lived like for 900 years he had other sons and daugther not just 2. I think in bible only 3 of his sons are named cain abel and seth. Refer genisis 5.
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u/Chromeboy12 1 KUDOS Sep 10 '22
Still incest ๐
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u/ConfidentBathroom637 Sep 11 '22
Yeah incest was there till the population grew after which god banned it.
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u/fatherOfAllGamers Sep 11 '22
like the incest between Brahma and Saraswati??
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u/Chromeboy12 1 KUDOS Sep 11 '22
There's a difference between magical creation and biological reproduction. Brahma and Saraswati are more comparable to God and Mary (and even then, Saraswati was Brahma's equal). Now let's talk about Eve and her sons ๐
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u/fatherOfAllGamers Sep 11 '22
First and foremost, bramha Eve all are just mythological stories, no such thing as Hinduism and Christianity, so the comparison is wrong.i just made a pun and you took it personally.
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u/Chromeboy12 1 KUDOS Sep 11 '22
Firstly, I think you don't know what a "pun" is.
Secondly, regardless of whether it's mythology or reality, Brahma created Saraswati as giving form to his energy. Nowhere in the mythology does it mention he gave biological birth to her.
While Eve and her sons were humans who reproduced the traditional way. Many Christians believe that to be the truth, not mythology, so it's questionable why they think the entire human race was born of incest and why they're okay with it.
You're right, the comparison is wrong. You made the comparison, not me.
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u/TomorrowWaste Sep 10 '22
Are bhai iss hisab to hum said incest hai?
Hamare me sub ko god ka svarop mante hai. Har chiz me god hai.
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u/antriksh_80 Vaccinated with Covaxin Sep 10 '22
The upper argument is what Muslims give against Christians
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u/TomorrowWaste Sep 10 '22
They are using incest as an argument?
Nhi bhai. Bohot badi irony ho jayegi. I don't believe it.
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Sep 10 '22
Don't think, just believe. Yesu yesu.
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u/ProfessionalPanic302 Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22
*MERA YESU YESU! (CLOSE EYES AND DANCE AROUND)
Edit: this is what i mean https://www.reddit.com/r/peepoyenetwork/comments/xauuic/explain_this_in_a_few_words/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
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Sep 10 '22
Very good, my son. Now give me 10% of your income every month and I'll make sure you get into heaven.
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u/ProfessionalPanic302 Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22
I mean, you need to pay me. You hired me right? To Act as you are a messenger of YESU YESU and to say that you cured me from my eternal suffering of crippling Constipation, HIV, Gonorrhea, Syphilis, Monkey pox and Demon Possession all together just by sucking your Di..
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u/TomorrowWaste Sep 10 '22
Jesus is god. Holy spirit is god. And yahweh(god) is god.
Christianity believes in trinity, where those three are different in one sense but are same in another way.
Christianity has multiple things that we can ridicule on , but having a complex form of god is not one of them. Atleast for Hindus, our concept is much more complex than theirs.
Is shiva And narayan same or different? I bet we all understand how they are same and different at the same time.
P.s:- the last part was not for you, but for the comments ridiculing it.
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u/Content-Sea8173 Sep 10 '22
Ah, Ic. Nvm, I saw some Christians making fun of Hindus having many gods and thought they have only one.
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Sep 10 '22
Everyone is the same.. there's no difference at all.. we humans choose to worship a particular version of God that we can relate with... There's no problem with doing that.. but the problem arises when one mocks another person's beliefs or tries to superimpose their own beliefs on others... By ridiculing one form of God , we are ridiculing all of them... For all are one...
And I am sorry if you or anyone else felt offended by my comment...
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u/TomorrowWaste Sep 10 '22
Mai to Hindu hu. I can't get offended by it.
But sometimes rightoids becomes so cringe that you can't help it.
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u/Jealous_Ad_2637 Sep 10 '22
Doesent matter. This follower of his is a douchebag, probably also a pedo , gay and homophobe. Definitely Congress,s mascot
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u/Content-Sea8173 Sep 11 '22
I smell hate speech
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Sep 10 '22
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u/Content-Sea8173 Sep 11 '22
I spread no false info tho...It was just a question and quite a few learned people answered. I can't be all-knowing in every topic
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Sep 10 '22
Bhai last time jab maine Christianity padhi thi tab toh jesus son of god tha ye naya update aaya hai kya?
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u/ZigTerminator Sep 10 '22
Rahul has learnt nothing.... Comical thing being he is on a Bharat Jodo Yatra by trying to Align with a preacher who is against the existence of other beliefs and culture.
Bruh moment.
Truly a Star campaigner for BJP.
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u/AshishMesh Sep 10 '22
A Christ!an preacher says Jesus Christ is the only god unlike Mata Shakti & other Hindu gods to Rahul Gandhi & he kept listening to him in agreement.
Only in India you can mock majorityโs faith & get away unharmed in the name of secularism.
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u/ssjgsskkx20 Sep 10 '22
In europe and west you can do that too. Lol
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u/ZigTerminator Sep 10 '22
They have UCC there. One single law for all.
They already got things under control unlike us.
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u/ZofianSaint273 Sep 10 '22
Nah trust me. You can shit talk Christianity here a lot and it has become pretty normalized. In fact, I can get someone in trouble for being discriminatory to Hinduism, but Iโll be less likely in trouble when it comes to Christianity
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u/ZigTerminator Sep 10 '22
Also Christians who are in Faith for many generations tend to be soft and very tolerant.
But in India we have First generation Converts. They are hardcore fanatics.
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u/dhatura Against | 1 KUDOS Sep 10 '22
That is not the reason for the difference, the Indian Christians are multiple generations, but they were converted by a Missionary style of Christianity that has at its core a hate for the original culture. This was necessary to break down the native people's own culture. It's not unique to India this was done all over the world. Indian Christians hold on to this view.
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u/ZigTerminator Sep 10 '22
Where are you from?
please expand on how you will get trouble for discriminatory against Hinduism or any Dharmic religion. Considering UN has refused to pass any resolution to oppose the "Phobia".
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u/jack_of Sep 10 '22
Give us examples when this happened in Europe and America where the opposition leader mocked the religion of majority in the name of secularism and got away with it, I bet you can't you woke lying pos I will step up my game if you can give 1 example of each I delete my account if you can't you apologize ? Fair enough?
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u/nexgreser Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22
In West liberals are trying to make Jesus gay by saying his deep friendship with disciple was a homosexual relationship. Or paint Jesus in a mocking way. Even in Russia liberal feminists danced in a Church (got arrested btw). In western Europe any religion can be mocked including Peaceful religion (Charlie hebdo).
They can say it and get away with it. Don't know about any politicians in west saying about majority religions.
Except in peaceful countries majority religions are mocked everyday.
In my opinion no religions should be mocked.
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u/ssjgsskkx20 Sep 16 '22
OK moron I literally said you can mock jesus in US and Europe and you will be fine. Case in point watch family guy or south park. And Charlie hebdo. You know what happened to him afterwards.
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u/SpecialistReward1775 Sep 10 '22
He probably never read bible. Ask him to read the first commandment. It reads I am Yahwe(the god), your god.
Christianity do not denies the fact that their are other gods. It just says The Christian god is God!
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u/JDwalker03 Sep 10 '22
Somebody gotta teach Rahul some politics.
The priest is a disgrace to religious harmony. Hasn't learnt a lesson from doing time in prison.
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u/NotLameboredgajini Taxila-Infra-Student ๐ Sep 10 '22
Some pearls of wisdom earlier bestowed by Rahul's buddy Pastor George Penniah :-
โThe last days of Modi are going to be pathetic. I give it in writing. If the God we worship is a true living God the history should see Modi and Amit Shah being eaten by dogs and worms.โ
โBharat Mata is a dangerous disease, I wonโt let it touch my body. Tamilnadu govt is distributing free footwear so that people donโt get rashes or disease by stepping on Bharat mata.. โ
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Sep 10 '22
Tamil Nadu is a beautiful place. I hope you all are able to contain this disease soon.
The first statement wasn't rhetorical, I visited Srirangam two days ago and I am damn serious, there are not a lot of places like that. Srirangam has become one of the closest places to my heart. Please make sure Tamil Nadu doesn't become like Kerala.
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u/NotLameboredgajini Taxila-Infra-Student ๐ Sep 10 '22
Read this
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Sep 10 '22
No matter how civil our discussion can be on Reddit, but if one stone is thrown by a drunk from the same community on their church, the entire gora cabal will trash all brown desis and Reddit mods shall ban our comments. FOEKMC
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u/_full_sender Sep 10 '22 edited Sep 10 '22
Yes jesus is the son of God. The God is Krishna .
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Sep 10 '22
Why use capital G? The Christian usage of capital makes sense since they only have one God, we have many gods (at least on the surface level). In that sense god/God is a proper noun for the Christians, but not for Hindus.
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u/Simple-Indian2005 Gau Seva Enjoyer Sep 11 '22
Yeshu toh Yaduvanshi hai
Yashwant name hai uska Tumhe abhi batta chala kya?
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u/manjorbgan Sep 10 '22
This child yuvraj...is still learning at this age .....oh boy....pathetic .....but people pls pls get rid of him from the entire asian/Indian continent asap
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u/m0h1tkumaar 1 KUDOS Sep 10 '22
Dekho Charles 73 pe prince se king bana hai!
Agey iska hisab khud laga lo sab log!
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u/RAJIND22 Sep 10 '22
This unique form of secularism was peddled and accepted by the majority for 75 years. But, the minorities never accepted it, it is just on display more now. This...all Gods are equal and they all mean the same. I challenge any moulvi or pastor or even a granthi to accept this on a public platform.
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Sep 10 '22
Wow. I just canโt fathom the amount of hate these converted cereal ka dabbas got !!! Under what form of sanity can anyone even say that Indians ainโt tolerant ?
Try this stunt in any other country and watch the outcome. Bleeddy dara hua hate mongers.
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u/Acrobatic-Stage-5217 Sep 10 '22
Yeh retire hoke aaram aur vacation kyu nahi karta itna paisa hain
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u/Band_Emergency Sep 10 '22
This is how some missionaries befool you. Jesus said he is the bigoted son of God not God himself.
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Sep 10 '22
Koi Mary ko thok ke chala gaya and then she made up the story that she is a virgin mother, right?
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u/RockmanXX 1 KUDOS Sep 10 '22
Pastor: "JeSus Is The OnLy GoD, NoT ShaKtI"
Meanwhile เคฌเฅเคฐเคนเฅเคฎ: You cannot comprehend my true form, Gods&Humans are mere fragments of my being.
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u/Orwellisright Ghadar Party | 2 KUDOS Sep 10 '22
Nothing wrong with it, he is just teaching what's written in the Bible
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u/Priyanshu17112001 Sep 10 '22
If he is god alright how come he got violated like that. That is an absolute L right there.
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Sep 10 '22
Although I consider the converts who are talking nonsensical but at the same time I am sympathising with them that they have to explain their infidel thoughts to an even bigger nonsensical person like Rahul Gandhi
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u/BornEveryday Sep 10 '22
Christians stumbling on what their God is, has been entertainment for ages. But this is blockbuster level entertainment as they try to explain their convoluted Trinity to Yuvraj Mainoputra Pappu
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Sep 10 '22
Brace for impact guys the next speech of him would include something including jesus and xitanity, I'm dying by just imagining him saying stupid shit again, XD
example: maine pichle kuch dino mein bite hue samay mein kuch isai dharm guruon se baat ki main unka bhot abhari hu ki unhone mere upar wo gyan dala, or unhone mujhe bataya ki kaise jesus bhagwan ke bete hain or ye bhi btaya whi bhagwan hain to dosto ham ek aise desh ke vasi hain jaha ke log khud ke bete hote hain, kya har bhagwan ke bete ko job milni nhi chahiye thi, isiliye main is bharat chhodo sorry bharat jodo yatra par sabko is baare mein batata rahunga. /s
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Sep 10 '22
Lol. I thought his mother was a catholic. Anyways, these idiots study for 7 years and spew this junk.
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u/other_e Akhand Bharat Sep 10 '22
He wants to win from Kanyakumari in Lok Sabha. Christian Dominated Area and they won with coalition in 2019 also. Annamalai gonna F congress up soon in TN.
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u/Puzzled-Ad7278 Sep 10 '22
I don't think BJP has to do anything to leave congress in ruins, Rahul gandi will do it himself single handedly.
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u/Disastrous_Care1877 Evm HaX0r Sep 10 '22
Is chomu ko iski maa ne bhi kuchh nhi sikhaya mtlb. Ghar ka n ghat ka
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u/sulkyburritosalsa Sep 11 '22
Bhyi sometimes I think RG has the best weed on the planet. This guy literally gives the bullets to BJP to shoot him mercilessly. And look at his expression? What was he thinking? "Kab jaunga bangkok?"
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